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post #41 of 52 Old 03-03-2015, 10:37 AM
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Many moons ago I was at a fairly big show. There was the regional finals for the 14.2 and under SJ for the Horse of the Year show, the toughest class for jar jumpers.

There were all the top ponies and their riders, grooms, instructors and parents. Among all the horseboxes pulls up a battered car pulling a single trailer. The rider was young lad with rather long hair (not the done thing back then) they unloaded a pony that was a bit scruffy looking. The lad was wearing jodhpurs that were in need of seeing the washer. Tack was old and past its best.

The lad mounted and rode off. I thought no more about it as I went off to do a class.

I walked back to watch the end of the qualifier after my class. I only saw two or three jump the first round and it was the jump off.

I was astounded to see that the scruffy lad, ride into the arena for the jump off! There had been one clear in a good time.
He came in and set off at a good clip. He took one fence (and these jumps were 4'6" + ) at an such an angle I was surprised the pony never ran out. He was then able to turn inside another fence and jump a large parallel. He was clear in an extraordinary time and won the class.

I will admit that although I didn't approve of his turn out, I got a great deal of pleasure from the watching the disgruntled entourage of the other competitors offering congratulations through clenched teeth!

That young rider was tidied up in his attire and represented GB in international competitions. The pony they had bought in a sale for very little money. The rider never went onto riding horse in SJ, instead he went into National Hunt racing (Steeplechasing) and became Champion Jockey.
Similar thing happened with us. We help coach a high school mountain bike team. Local kid is crazy fast but doesn't have much money fir fancy gear. I tell him, don't worry about what you look like. So at the first race it's against a pretty rich school and all the kids look like pro racers and the average bike was about $6,000. My guy has a must less expensive bike, capris jean shorts and a skateboard style helmet, very safe but "uncool". He gets second in his first race....out of 45. Priceless!
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Hopefully we've answered the OPs question sufficiently. Now, it seems that we've crept into "old codgers telling war stories" territory. So here's mine.

In the mid '70s, I competed in amateur rodeo. I never won anything, but one year I went to the regional championships and worked behind the chutes. Things had already gotten started when an old hippie style van pulled in. A Black guy, with a big afro and a Soul Train hat, a psycadelic shirt, and tennis shoes got out. He went to his side door and changed those for a cowboy hat, western shirt, and boots. Then he strode up to the registration tent and came out with a number on his back.

Desegregation was still a very new thing, and no one around me seemed to know who he was. Still he couldn't have registered for the championship unless he had qualified at several smaller shows.

The next time I saw him, he was rigging up in the saddle bronc chutes. He made an impressive ride and won the saddle bronc championship. He stayed long enough to collect his check. Then he changed his clothes and drove his van off into the sunset.
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Hopefully we've answered the OPs question sufficiently. Now, it seems that we've crept into "old codgers telling war stories" territory. .
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Not that this isn't seen in a lot of other places, but I think a lot of us divide horse people into three groups:

1) Idiots who have no idea what they're doing.
2) Insufferable know-it-alls who can't shut up about how their breed, gear, technique, whatever, is the greatest thing that ever happened to horsedom.
3) Me.

I think it's just human nature to think this way, especially in an endeavor as complex as training an enormous animal with a mind of it's own and with constantly varying willingness and ability to follow our inconsistent instructions.

There's a fourth group that everyone seems to be trying to keep hidden:

4) Decent, friendly, well-meaning people who may or may not know something useful and are willing to share it.

I don't know why, but the insufferable know-it-alls seem to be very much over-represented among horse people. I'll speculate that it's in part because of two things:

1) Like anything else that's expensive, it's loaded with people who are there only because daddy has money.
2) There's a cultural divide between rural, farm raised people who sometimes think city dwellers are ignoramuses who couldn't find their way out of a wet paper sack without a GPS, and city dwellers who sometimes think rural folk are provincial hicks who've barely entered the 20th century, much less the 21st.

That first thing is an annoyance of any expensive activity, and of course is not universal. There are plenty of perfectly nice people who just had the good fortune to be born into money. The second is kind of sad, really. These groups depend on each other.
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Oh another tip I got from someone. There is an implant that releases hormones or something that causes your horse to "bulk up" and I should do that. Apparantly you implant it into chest or something.
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post #46 of 52 Old 03-04-2015, 10:10 AM
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I'm usually the lone mule/donkey lover in any crowd, so people just back away from me slowly ;-)

And god, I couldn't live with an equine I couldn't pet/love on. What would be the point of it all? You might as well just buy a car or a motorcycle.
Hi Mulefeather, All!

I have encountered people who will not ride with George. The usual excuse goes something like "My horse has never been around a mule before . . .", but a good friend actually told me he was afraid George would kick his dog. As his dog, a middle aged Blue Heeler, has a bad habit of nipping at a horse's back feet while underway, I had to agree with him; "Yep, if she nips at Georgies feet, he's gonna launch her . . ."
Once we encountered a group of riders in a switchback on a single track trail. A young girl was on a white horse who was afraid of George; the horse looked like he was about to faint or something. The girls father started cussing at George and I; "Get that d____d mule out of the trail!" Ordinarily, I would have suggested that dad F.O.A.D., but out of consideration for the little girl and her poor horse, I asked G. to back down the trail (too narrow/steep to turn) until we could step off into the trees and let them pass. Not a word of thanks.
Then there are always other riders with disparaging comments; "What _is_ that you're riding . . .?". I just smile; "This is my buddy George! Isn't he Spec-Tacular?"
I'm still not clear why holes in _your_ animals training are _my_ problem, but I guess in the long run, those who _can_ have to make accommodations for those who can't.

So yea OP, and anyone else following along; as a presumably intelligent entity, it is your job to sort the wheat from the chaff. You accomplish this by considering as many different viewpoints as possible, and sorting based on your own wisdom, and what makes sense. This is termed Critical Thinking, and it's a valuable skill, 'cause without it, you are just another sheep following the flock. This is a fairly universal concept BTW, certainly not limited to equestrian issues, tho I might suggest that it is an area with plenty of opportunities :-)

As far as petting, my critters are pets and friends first, and carry me around once in awhile because they _like_ me. Wouldn't have it any other way.

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I'm usually the lone mule/donkey lover in any crowd, so people just back away from me slowly

And god, I couldn't live with an equine I couldn't pet/love on. What would be the point of it all? You might as well just buy a car or a motorcycle.
This made me laugh (in a happy way!) I agree! (but I'm backing away slowly because donkeys scare me a little). ha ha
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Hi Mulefeather, All!

I have encountered people who will not ride with George. The usual excuse goes something like "My horse has never been around a mule before . . .", but a good friend actually told me he was afraid George would kick his dog. As his dog, a middle aged Blue Heeler, has a bad habit of nipping at a horse's back feet while underway, I had to agree with him; "Yep, if she nips at Georgies feet, he's gonna launch her . . ."
Once we encountered a group of riders in a switchback on a single track trail. A young girl was on a white horse who was afraid of George; the horse looked like he was about to faint or something. The girls father started cussing at George and I; "Get that d____d mule out of the trail!" Ordinarily, I would have suggested that dad F.O.A.D., but out of consideration for the little girl and her poor horse, I asked G. to back down the trail (too narrow/steep to turn) until we could step off into the trees and let them pass. Not a word of thanks.
Then there are always other riders with disparaging comments; "What _is_ that you're riding . . .?". I just smile; "This is my buddy George! Isn't he Spec-Tacular?"
I'm still not clear why holes in _your_ animals training are _my_ problem, but I guess in the long run, those who _can_ have to make accommodations for those who can't.

So yea OP, and anyone else following along; as a presumably intelligent entity, it is your job to sort the wheat from the chaff. You accomplish this by considering as many different viewpoints as possible, and sorting based on your own wisdom, and what makes sense. This is termed Critical Thinking, and it's a valuable skill, 'cause without it, you are just another sheep following the flock. This is a fairly universal concept BTW, certainly not limited to equestrian issues, tho I might suggest that it is an area with plenty of opportunities

As far as petting, my critters are pets and friends first, and carry me around once in awhile because they _like_ me. Wouldn't have it any other way.

ByeBye! Steve

Mules get so much crap from every angle it's unreal sometimes. I apologize for all of the knuckleheads that give you a hard time.

I've never ridden a mule or a donkey, but I've known some of the best draft mules in my town, they are truly priceless.
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I used to ride at a show barn that specialized in breeding and training Morgans for Championships. I owned two QHs at the time. I know these feelings all too well.

I am now lucky enough to board somewhere where all breeds are accepted. I own an Arabian/Saddlebred cross which I use in lessons mainly for hunters. She has shown hunters and western in the past. I have also started her over jumps.

Not once has my new trainer/instructor made a comment about her breed in being unable to do these things. She treats my horse like an individual. For her there are no limits except for what the horse tells us.

Yesterday when we were going over jumps, she asked me to canter my horse over. I am a beginner jumper and hadn't done this yet and I would nervous and worried, and she simply said "Your horse knows what she's doing. Let her jump."

<3 Love her.
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This made me laugh (in a happy way!) I agree! (but I'm backing away slowly because donkeys scare me a little). ha ha
Aww ecasey! Well, to each their own, but once you win a donkey or mule's trust, it's like having a big dog- I guess that's why I'm such a big fan. I'm definitely a dog person, so I guess having one that weighed 1600 lbs was a natural progression for me :)

George, how funny! Most horses I have known are a bit confused by mules, or they just don't even notice them. I was just reading an article in Horse Illustrated about a dressage mule who went to the FEI finals, and people were up in arms that she was going to spook all the horses. Apparently, only two horses at the show got the memo that mules ate horses :)
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