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post #1 of 20 Old 02-23-2015, 01:46 PM Thread Starter
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Horse Only Canter or Walk...Reluctant to Trot

I have a 10 yo Paint gelding who was diagnosed with heel pain in the left front and push off lameness on left hind, impact lameness on right hind. Left hind was diagnosed as low plantar angle and right hind was undetected with blocks. He has wedges on front and makeshift wedge in back (can't have metal shoes in back) though the back wedges are wearing down as its almost time for farrier. Saturday I rode and he seemed sore so we cut short. Here's what's been perplexing me though...

He is very forward where before in his lameness he was sluggish. He walks, sometimes he gives a good trot, but most often of late he only wants to walk or canter. I had a trainer watch and I'm not giving him a cue unaware. He doesn't want to slow. If this was due to lameness wouldn't he rather give a slow jog rather than canter?

Also Saturday he had trouble with his right lead. Normally he doesn't but he was counter cantering. We tried 3 times and each time the same. But his left lead was fine. I do need to have his teeth checked and he sees the chiropractor monthly while we work through his foot issues.

Is the lack of trotting and only wanting to canter to be associated with lameness? His hind isn't tracking up as well as before but I believe that is associated with the wear of the wedge on his shoes. He did have a slight head bob which told me he was sore but the other things I am unsure of. We did have some bad winter weather so not sure if that's why he was sore as he hadn't been ridden in a week...thoughts on the above???
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does this happen on a lunge line? is he cleared to ride?

would you like to post a video?
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This site is pretty interesting. In a canter there is a lot more weight on the hindquarters ... perhaps one of his fronts is bothering him? I don't know much about this stuff...Just a naive guess at best....

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does this happen on a lunge line? is he cleared to ride?

would you like to post a video?
Yes, he was cleared for riding from vet and farrier. This is the only video I have but this was from a few weeks ago.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2A...ew?usp=sharing
Here he's giving a nice trot, but he's a bit fussy on the circle. Especially to the right. But you will see he tries to canter more without a cue. You will have to forgive me as my son took it for me so I could see how he was tracking up in his hindquarters. Was doing better here though not exactly where I needed. Saturday was much worse though. He was very fussy on both circles but very forward. Wouldn't give me a nice slow trot. Only a canter but again counter canter on right lead and normal on left. I wouldn't think if he was lame though that he would want to canter as I would think that would result in more impact/discomfort. So...I'm confused!
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Im sorry but he looks sore to me. In the front at the start. I can't really see you pushing him into any kind of canter.

Are you 100% his saddle fits? It looks like he is very reluctant to bend, which a badly fitting saddle would do too.
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Yeah, I had his saddle fitted and custom made for him with a professional saddle fitter. How can you tell he's sore? I must be missing something. I've had a crash course in lameness with all my lame horses but still have so much to learn. Can you see "where" he's sore?

I have the farrier coming out again Wed to make some adjustments to see if it helps.
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your son is cute!


well, I can see some hints of sort of tenderfootedness, or , I think I see it at the walk. but not knowing how he normally goes, not 100% sure. his trot was not bad. but, I can see that he won't give a right lead. right lead needs a strike off from left rear, so maybe that left rear is troubling him more. could be a stiffness in the body, instead of his feet.

he seemed to have trouble circling right and nearly ran into the pole a couple of times.
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your son is cute!


well, I can see some hints of sort of tenderfootedness, or , I think I see it at the walk. but not knowing how he normally goes, not 100% sure. his trot was not bad. but, I can see that he won't give a right lead. right lead needs a strike off from left rear, so maybe that left rear is troubling him more. could be a stiffness in the body, instead of his feet.

he seemed to have trouble circling right and nearly ran into the pole a couple of times.
Thank you...my son was embarrassed when I told him I was sharing this one lol! :)

He did have some trouble but the pole part was just him trying to get off the circle. He does that when he wants to stop. At first I thought maybe he was trying to get out of work. But now I think he's not trying to misbehave as he aims to please but I think is more him trying to communicate with me.

I spoke to the farrier and I think we are going to put the wedge pad back in front as vet said he was sound with those. (Farrier originally took them out as he felt we jumped to those rather than just trying a wedge shoe in front.) In the back we are going to try to increase the wedge to see if that helps. The angle was low so if we can get that right, he should improve from what we seen on xray.
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I saw just the tenderfootiness as tiny said. How long ago was the saddle fitted? Could the horse have changed?

As for wedges and the like, honestly here we would take EVERYTHING off and let him have a bare sugar free life for a year. I do not personally agree in filling a horses hoof out to make it comfortable to ride. If it isn't comfy in its own hoof, it should not be used. im not against shoes for horses who need to have the extra wall support.
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I'll be interested to hear how it goes. the horse I lease has slightly dropped fetlocks, and the farrier suggested going with slight wedges, but I have heard that doing such can end up creating more problems than it fixes. shoeing is just such a mystery to me. I know so much more about other things, and like practically nothing about shoes.
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