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post #21 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 08:30 AM Thread Starter
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So update, she is seriously not spooky. She is with our other livestock all day and nothing what so ever phases her besides humans. she is around loud noises and nothing scares her she just is very unapproachable by humans.
She is the higher horse to my 15 hh quarter horse, whom she is much smaller than.
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post #22 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 10:19 AM
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Through pressure and release this horse has learned how to not be caught. By going out to catch him and not following through you have made the right thing easy (running away). There's two ways to fix it.

Desensitize is the majority opinion here so far (read a book). That can work on an acre or so. On 200 acres you can read everything Steven King has ever written next to the watering hole and never catch him. I don't like it because it can be extremely slow. Like over a year!
Try putting a dead bear on a horse! Desensitize is the only way I've found that works. Pressure and release just makes for a big rodeo.

I've come across a few good horses where the ad says "If you can catch him you can have him". The people have taught him how to not be caught and are fed up with him. He's leaving with or without a bullet. So I go out with a couple of horses and chase him down. Relaying my horses until he gives up (right thing easy). I get him home and do it again. Pick a corner of the field. When he goes in the corner I release pressure. If he leaves the chase is on. One time around the field is about a mile and they usually give up. Catch him, brush him down, and let him go. It only takes a couple of times for them to figure out being caught is the right (easy) thing.
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post #23 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 11:19 AM
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So I go out with a couple of horses and chase him down. Relaying my horses until he gives up (right thing easy).
Do it with a dirt bike and hit two desensitization birds with one stone!
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post #24 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 11:28 AM
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Lots of good advice. A few tips to add.

I have had to walk a few horses down over the years. This involves just what it sounds like; no running, no yelling, no excitement, just walking after them. I do not let them eat or drink, the idea is to get them to stop and let me approach. I just continue to walk towards them, and don't stop. I make sure to have some sort of treat with me to give the horse once they stop and allow me to approach them.

The longest it ever took me was 3 hours.

Once the horse is "caught" then I walk them inside a stall and give them feed. When I turn them back out, I also give them a treat and some soft strokes, usually on the neck.

Most important is to talk to them with a soft, praising voice. Have known a few folks that don't talk much to their horses, and the horses don't seem to like that. Not sure quite why that is, but have noticed it more than once.

I'm always talking to mine when around them One is the prettiest pony in the world! One is the sweetest girl ever, and now I have the prettiest girl too.

The prettiest girl follows me all over the place now...and I do believe the prettiest pony in the world is a bit jealous...

The sweetest girl has always been very nervous of people, especially boys. She is one of the ones that I had to walk down for weeks. But she now is happy to rest her head over my shoulder when I stroke her neck. She will stand like that for a long time just enjoying my attention. When I whistle she stops what ever she is doing and comes up to me. Its a great feeling when a horse trusts you
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post #25 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 11:36 AM
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Warwick Schiller has some good videos on shut down horses like this.
This. Subscribe to his video library for a month or two. His methods work wonders for anxious and shut-down horses. My traumatized little Paso Fino started out running away from people, then would totally shut down once caught. Now he's the first to greet me at the fence and makes a pest of himself when someone is working in the pasture.

I'm not usually one to promote trainers mindlessly, but Warwick's methods work, he explains everything very well, and is approachable and personable. I've been working with horses for over 30 years, and I learn something new from his videos all the time.

The 'walk them down' method works, but I view that as a last resort for a scared horse-- I want them to choose to feel safe with me, not give up because they're tired or shut down. Use it if you must (like getting a horse caught for the vet or away from a bad home) but it doesn't do much when it comes to getting the horse to like people. I will use it, though, if I have a horse that is not scared, but is just trying to get out of work. Big difference.
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post #26 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 11:49 AM
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You know - having kept up with this thread... The one thing someone randomly said to me that changed EVERYTHING was this:

I let him come to me.

Superman is the type of wiley old horse that will be all over you and in your pocket... until you walk out there with a rope and halter. Then he's outta here. Nope. NOT gonna do it!

J.C. was at the house one evening, she and I were going to ride and I was trying to catch Supes (We were not riding Trigger at all at the time - he was in his untouchable phase), and she said: Hang on a sec...

I left the pasture, stood at the fence. She comes back from her truck with a big bag of peppermint horse snacks. And walks out there. Calls his name, and then does NOTHING but show him the bag. She even had a rope.

And she had him in about 5 minutes.

I said: What!?

She was grinning ear to ear and said: I let him come to me. It was his choice.

THAT is what resonated with me and the following week I had a bag of those same treats and I left it up to Trigger to come to me for the snacks. It's evolved from there - we have our ritual we do now, but otherwise, it's by his choice rather than walking or running him down.

Though - he does sometimes show off and prance around and play at being caught, and when he does that, I just let him because horses, showing off their strength and beauty, are magnificent to watch.
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post #27 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 12:01 PM
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What Atoka said; let the horse come to you. I have had to walk a few horse down when they were new, but not for long!

Now I call them, usually just a whistle and they come up to me. If I am working in the pasture they are all aware of me, and look to see if I want them. If I don't beckon or whistle, they return to grazing, but still keeping a watch on me

One time the sweetest girl aka Sassy; stood next to the wash/grooming rack while I was grooming and tacking up my gelding for a ride. Then she followed us through the pasture and made a pest out of herself when I was trying to ride!

It was the funniest thing; she would plant herself right were I was heading and just stare at us. She wasn't grazing or anything. So the next day, I groomed her and rode her for a little bit and she seemed very happy about that!
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post #28 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 12:46 PM
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All of ours watch me like a hawk when I'm outside now. Trigger most especially of all and wherever I am outside, I can look up and see him directly in front of me at the fence, looking my way and hopefully.

I buy about 6 bags of carrots a week these days.
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post #29 of 29 Old 04-27-2018, 10:42 PM
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Do it with a dirt bike and hit two desensitization birds with one stone!
With the steep ground around here it would be three birds.... The helicopter when life flight comes to get me!
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