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post #41 of 44 Old 07-16-2015, 05:44 PM
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I feel like people are arguing apples and oranges here as well as arguing the same fact phrased differently!!

Ultimately it comes down to the temperature AND humidity and how hot the horse is and why (are they standing in the sun on a hot day? just finished jumping a cross country course?)

Cooling a horse when it's standing in the pasture at 85 degrees and 10% humidity is VERY different from cooling an athlete after work (polo/jumping/racing anything strenuous) at the same temperature and 90% humidity.

For my purposes I usually hose sweat then dirt then anything else I want then focus on hot points (chest, etc) to help cool as needed then give a once over and finish. I scrape when I'm done. Sometimes it matters more than others, see above.
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There are two means of cooling with water. The first is evaporation, which works with any water on the skin. Efficiency depends on the humidity. Sweat is the body providing this mechanism by itself.

The second is the heat capacity of water, which is 4 times greater than air. So if the air next to the skin is 10 deg cooler than the skin, it will take X amount of energy to warm it - thus transferring X heat. But if the water next to the skin is 10 deg cooler, it will take 4X energy to warm it.

Of course, if the water is cooler than the air, it will absorb even more energy while heating up. Water moving over the skin would be optimum, since the heat would continuously transfer.

If you have limited amounts of water, then sponging it on, letting it absorb heat, then scraping it off and replacing it is the best you can do. If you have a hose or lake, then let it flow. Either is better than waiting for air to do the job. After all, the insulation provided by hair to keep the horse warm also acts to retain the heat after exercise.

None of that is very surprising. The argument made prior to the Atlanta studies were twofold:

1 - The veins contract when cooled, so cool water will actually REDUCE heat transfer. In fact, the shrinking of capillaries isn't a big factor, while the cooling effect of water is. I can remember when the common wisdom of joggers was that you should shower off with warm water to prevent the blood vessels from shrinking. It is not true with humans, either!

2 - Muscles will be shocked and contract when suddenly cooled, creating muscle spasms. Doesn't happen that way.
"Statement #2 above has been the source of some controversy over the years because of the belief among certain horse trainers that ice cold water placed on a hot horse's body will "shock" the horse's thermoregulatory system into shutting down blood flow to the skin. This belief has been found to be wrong. Extensive research conducted during 1995 at the University of Illinois and University of Guelph and at the 1996 Olympic Summer Games in Atlanta proved conclusively that horses working under hot and humid conditions were better able to maintain core body temperature within an acceptable range or even reduce it during rest periods after intense phases when ice water baths were used. Liberal application of icy cold water to overheated horses helps to dissipate heat not only by providing more water to evaporate from the skin, but also by direct conduction of the horse's body heat into the water which runs off the horse, carrying away excess heat in the process. According to University of Illinois researcher Dr. Jonathan Foreman, "In our treadmill simulations of C Halt (a rest period during a phase of the equestrian competitions at the Olympic games), cold water baths were used with significant decreases in core temperatures and heart rates. No adverse clinical effects were apparent during the remainder of Phase C trotting or after exercise. Horses actually trotted more freely after bathing stops."

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post #43 of 44 Old 07-16-2015, 07:41 PM
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For clarification, when I hose my horse off after a ride, I am not doing it to cool him off, I am doing it to rinse off the sweat as the salt dulls a coat. I suppose the horse does get cooled off from the water as a benefit.
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If our humidity is low (<35%). I will let them cool via evaporation. We use evaporative coolers at houses here, too.

I know a polo player that had a large fan and a generator available. His guests set it up under his canopy while he was out warming up a horse, thinking it must be for their comfort. When he got back, he never criticized them, or scolded them, he just visited pleasantly while he moved the fan for the benefit of his string of ponies. The guests didn't object. All very peacefully done.
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