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post #21 of 32 Old 10-10-2014, 06:46 PM
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It's not just horses, but anything new you learn. The first challenge is always going to be getting a handle on the scope of your own ignorance. I still don't know how much there is I have to learn, so I'm right with you.

That said, although experts may not always agree on solutions, they usually agree on what things are important. So, for example, if your topic is saddles, you may get ton of opinions on color, style, materials, etc., nearly everyone generally agrees that how it fits the horse is critical. Knowing that, you can focus first on learning how people fit their saddles and set aside less important things like leather vs. man-made materials.

Look then for common threads in what people think are important. Doing this lets you triage the overwhelming list of things to learn and prioritize what you study. I've done this in many different fields of interest to help myself learn important things first.
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post #22 of 32 Old 10-10-2014, 07:25 PM
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I didn't read through all of the responses, so this may have already been said, but one of the most important things to consider is the source for what you're reading (horse-related or otherwise).

For example, I came across an article that was saying that keeping a horse barefoot would cripple a horse and was basically the worst thing a horse owner could do.
It was put out by a farrier school.
Big surprise, of course they want people shoeing their horses. That's what keeps them in business.

Some different practices come down to a difference of opinion.
Some are the difference between good horsemanship, ignorance, or abuse.
Common sense goes a long way.

If you really want to go in-depth, you can look up peer-reviewed journal articles through Google Scholar or a university library that are from professional veterinary journals, journals on animal behavior, etc.
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post #23 of 32 Old 10-10-2014, 11:05 PM
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..i think i know about that youtuber you talk about and yes he has some very good advice...but if you watch some of his videos when he goes out to the pasture try to go work with his horses I seen they try to avoid him...red flag there...

I think anyone with a horse and a video camera these days can start up a channel call themselves a trainer...lol...truth is tho you ARE a trainer every time you are with a horse at all...good for you on starting work with a rescue and starting lessons :) i hope it goes great for you! I would not worry so much about getting it exactly right, the more you are around horses and learn how they are the better you figure out what works the best for you..it depends on you and on the horses...that is why everyone on the internet seems like they got a different solution, cause what works for one person might not work for another...same happened with me..i look back on when i first got into horses again and even just a year ago and realise wow i was an idiot then..lol...my horses were way more forgiving than i deserve them to be! they have been and probably always will be my best teachers...
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post #24 of 32 Old 10-11-2014, 01:09 AM
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my horses ... always will be my best teachers...
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post #25 of 32 Old 10-11-2014, 08:10 AM
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Two things apply here.
1) always apply a large dollop of common sense to anything you are told.
2) when working for someone else always do it their way unless number one says otherwise.
That's pretty much the basics of learning about horses from others.
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post #26 of 32 Old 10-11-2014, 12:05 PM
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First off, kudos to you for working with rescue horses. But the first thing you want to know is that you are safely handling these animals who can seriously hurt you. (your safety, that is.) What I have learned about horse people is that they are "all right, all the time," and seldom agree with another horse person. That said, use your intuition and common sense as your guide, and seek out a helpful coworker at the rescue, or someone where you are taking lessons who you think is doing things the right way.
There are many opinions out there, and it is indeed difficult to weed through all of them. Once you get to know the horses a little more you will get a feel for their individual needs, and develop an appreciation for their unique personalities. Regardless of anyone's amount of experience handling horses, there are some things you just can't do with some of them that you can with others. Above all, RESPECT is key- they need to see you as higher in the pecking order, and this can be accomplished with confident body language and an even, calm tone. In my opinion (see? what did I tell ya?) heavy hands and rough approaches are not your friends. Always ask first, then amp up the pressure if need be.
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post #27 of 32 Old 10-13-2014, 03:57 AM
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personally when I'm not sure about something, I go back to the basic psychology of horses and how they communicate with eachother in the wild. They speak a different language to us, and we need to learn to understand it. Look at tons of sources, I don't think it's a great idea to stick to just one, and I'll always try to constantly educate myself. Even just watching horses play together in the pasture can teach you alot about them.
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post #28 of 32 Old 10-18-2014, 01:59 AM
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There is only one universal thing to always follow. Never rush or take shortcuts when handling horses as those are the times you are most likely to get hurt. Be safe, always.
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Just wanted to add a little to this.Regardless of the method you use control your temper. Losing it makes everything you do afterwards a waste of time.Neither you or the horse will benefit from training done while you are ticked off.
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post #29 of 32 Old 10-18-2014, 02:03 AM
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..i think i know about that youtuber you talk about and yes he has some very good advice...but if you watch some of his videos when he goes out to the pasture try to go work with his horses I seen they try to avoid him...red flag there...

I think anyone with a horse and a video camera these days can start up a channel call themselves a trainer...lol...truth is tho you ARE a trainer every time you are with a horse at all...good for you on starting work with a rescue and starting lessons :) i hope it goes great for you! I would not worry so much about getting it exactly right, the more you are around horses and learn how they are the better you figure out what works the best for you..it depends on you and on the horses...that is why everyone on the internet seems like they got a different solution, cause what works for one person might not work for another...same happened with me..i look back on when i first got into horses again and even just a year ago and realise wow i was an idiot then..lol...my horses were way more forgiving than i deserve them to be! they have been and probably always will be my best teachers...
I think I know who you mean.Be careful he contradicts his self a fair bit. Amongst almost all clinicians/trainers there tend to be common threads.
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^Are you guys talking about Voldemort??
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