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post #31 of 60 Old 05-11-2020, 05:25 PM
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In the US there are quite distinct tiers and it's good to know which tier you are talking about.

You can get a sound, nicely put together horse for nothing or next to nothing if it has no training, and isn't registered. There are thousands of horses like this. Most will probably never be trained, and will end up on a trailer to a slaughterhouse over the border. My horse was in this category. She was given to me rather than go to the auction and end up on the meat truck.

You can get the same type of horse for $3000 to $5000 if it has basic training on it -- good ground manners, walk trot canter, turns, stops, will go out on a trail and come back with you still aboard, maybe pop over small jumps, steady temperament. That is a common type of horse for casual and beginning riders. This type of horse isn't flashy nor highly talented or polished but the majority of riders will be just fine with it. I turned my horse into this level of horse. I could get maybe $4K for her. Maybe.

The next level up is something you can show at a low to medium level. It is registered, pretty, and solidly trained to a specific discipline. This horse will be $8K to $25K. For example if my Morgan mare had a real trainer who polished her up so she had flying lead changes, collected and extended gaits, and so forth, and I had papers for her, she'd be more like a $10K horse.

The level up from that is the horse who can win at a medium to high level in its discipline, or is a current fad breed. Probably $12K and up, depending.
So you see it depends entirely on your ambitions.

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post #32 of 60 Old 05-11-2020, 08:51 PM
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When we bought our first horses we opted for older been there done that horses. My personal horse was $800. The tack I ride him with cost more than the horse. He was bought because he was gaited, nearby, and cheap. The vet estimated him to be 19 years old at purchase which puts him at 27 today. Since I've owned him he has never taken a lame step or seen the vet for more than annual routine shots. Our very first horse was a 16 year old registered Appaloosa mare bought for $1000, The seller had owned her since she was a foal and done all of her training. The horse was only for sale because the seller was moving on and getting out of horses. My thought is that if a horse makes it to their middle teens in decent physical shape they are probably pretty sturdy and should hold up well for many more years. We've had a lot more medical problems and injuries with our younger horses than the two oldies. I've watched other families whose kids ride at the farm where my daughter takes lessons buy younger green horses with mixed results. They've had to spend tons of money on professional training and not always ended up with a suitable horse in the end. A middle aged horse should have a decent amount of training that would be less likely to be screwed up by a novice horse owner.



My daughter has since gotten into barrel racing and has a taste for Quarter Horses with specific pedigrees. When you look for a pedigreed, purpose bred and trained horse prices escalate rapidly.



Our horses are kept at home so I have no idea of boarding costs but it always shocks me anytime I attempt to add up what we spend on them.
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post #33 of 60 Old 05-11-2020, 11:27 PM
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The most I ever paid for a horse was $3000.00 for a 5 year old APHA mare with a 2 month old colt on her side and rebred for the next year. She'd had 30 days put on her before becoming a broodmare (per the seller who had never ridden her) and once she was done with babies and I started riding her I realized she was much better than her training would lead you to believe and could be trusted with inexperienced riders.

It has been my experience that the horses you trust enough to put anyone one are born that way not made. It's all in their attitude and personality because they have to be laid back, patient and forgiving and those are things you can't train into a horse. My other horse I could trust that way was an AQHA yearling filly I bought for $200.00 and was bought because I wanted a second horse that I could let other people ride because my gelding certainly wasn't laid back enough to tolerate beginners. You just have to learn how to recognize those horses.

Paid $500.00 for a 15 year old AQHA mare trained on barrels but she wasn't for beginners or the faint of heart.
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post #34 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 12:50 AM
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The most I ever paid for a horse was $1500 and she was a finished registered quarter horse and the least was for a green broke register paint $500 (best horse I ever owned). All the others fell somewhere in between including my current horse a grade quarter / paint that I paid $600 for as a yearling. All off them did everything I wanted , some better than others. The only training I've had is from Clinton Anderson, Craig Cameron, Chris Cox, Ken McNabb and Steve Lanvit shows and tapes and the school of hard knocks. I haven't had any trouble training our horses with that education. Granted our horses have all been ranch and trail horses although, my daughters 4H shows and parades were ridden in too. We trained all of them to do the things we deemed necessary i.e. crossing creeks, climbing up and down steep terrain, riding on roads with traffic, gather and work cattle, moderate pasture roping, pasture and trail riding, mountain riding , ground tying, standing tied and quiet for long periods, trailering and much more. Most can educate their horses if they apply them selves. When we got our first horse 45+ years ago we were as green as they come but, if you have the desire you can make anything happen.

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post #35 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 07:49 AM
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IF you have the skills or can pay the monthly training fees, you can get a real nice horse for not much money. That's my preferred way to go. I like to buy not older than yearlings, bring them home and do groundwork with them for a year and then send them out to my friend/trainer who starts all my horses. He or his daughter get them going doing the Walk, Trot, Lope, Back Up thing and while doing that they chase cows and round them up, throw a rope on slow cows and then go to ropings and get ridden around, go to shows and get ridden around or if they're really good minded, put in at least walk/trot classes in some division. At the end of 60 days he'll tell me if the horse is one I will want to keep or one to put up and sell before I have too much into him.

We do the horses I've bred the same way. Give them 60 days, get them to the point where they can do a video of them in the big roping arena doing easy slow circles at all the gaits, then take them out in the cows & horses and walk through all that commotion, gather the cows and bring them up, go through water, cross bridges, go over logs, whatever the ranch gives them. Put them up for sale once we have some good pics and a video, price them fairly for a green/prospect horse and so far this year, I've sold 3 that way, in less than 24 hours each. Asking price on each horse was $3500 and I got it. These were 2 year olds and they had probably 50 good rides on them, they already had the "Siamese Cat" temperament that most of my babies have and nothing phased them. The trainer is very sad that I'm not breeding much anymore. He loved having those easy babies and their new owners have loved having them because they're so willing. Those horses were also double and triple registered to make it easy to go show in breed shows if the new owner desired. Or, they can just be trail ponies and ride around our local lakes and trails, it all takes a good minded, good hearted horse.

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post #36 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 08:27 AM
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Great way to produce good, solid horses @Dreamcatcher Arabians , but I still don't see how it can be cheaper. Feeding, vetting and housing a horse even for just a year, then sending it out for 60 days training would cost me 3500$ at the very minimum. That's based on what I pay for 3 small horses on pasture during the summer and relatively cheap hay, no grain, not including any vet bills other than vaccines. And that's not counting the cost of board because I have my own barn (which I'm still paying for, but let's leave those costs out for now...). Not saying you can't do it, but it's different if you don't have the infrastructure already in place and cannot make your own hay, for example. For you to take an extra foal in with your herd may not be a major expense, but for someone just starting out with horses, the costs can still end up being quite high.

A friend of mine got a filly two years ago for about a thousand dollars, changed her mind and resold her as a two year old for double the price. But guess what, she had that horse two years, fed it, vetted it, had its feet done, and did some groundwork but never saddled her. That's going to cost far more than the thousand dollar "profit" she made re-selling. No matter how I crunch the numbers, it seems to me that buying a horse that has some basic training at a reasonable price (say around 2-3K USD), even if it's green or a little on the older side, will always be a better deal than buying a young horse, keeping it for a year or two until it's mature enough to ride, then paying for the training. Obviously if you have specific goals, then that might be good motivation to get a foal, but financially, I don't see how you can come out ahead if your goal is just to have a solid mount that doesn't necessarily have papers or special skills.
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post #37 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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@Avna I live in Europe, prices seem to be higher here.



@Dreamcatcher Arabians Sounds like you were a good breeder. You probably bred horses with a good temperament... Unfortunately lots of people care more about looks... It should be about how they are.



I can second what the other riders say... Animals do have their temperaments and some you can never train out of certain habits or patterns. You see this with dogs too... But anyway that's why I would only buy a horse through people I know or buy a horse that I know... So I knew I would be getting a good fit for me.

ALso I am not looking for a fancy pedigree or a top trained horse. I am a beginner and if I ever buy a horse in maybe 5 years or so it can still grow with me and if it can't or I can't that would be okay. I would like to do trailriding and I love a good challenge but only if my animal feels the same. I would gladly adapt to its possibilities and preferences so there is no way to say what I am going to end up doing. Also I do not have the money to enter competition alot so... I guess that will never happen.

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From 0 to $$$$$$$$. I know people who have gotten wonderful well trained horses for free. A good friend found one and it was never claimed.
Personally the most I have paid is $2,000 and the least $500. They were both great. Around here a reliable trail horse would be in the neighborhood of $1500, give or take "depending"........
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post #39 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 11:13 AM
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I would only buy a horse through people I know or buy a horse that I know
The two horses I bought were from the same friend; we joke now every time she breeds ... "Thanks for breeding my next horse." But with all the horse buying horror stories out there (and I personally know of a few doozies), there are very few people I would trust to be honest about a horse.
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post #40 of 60 Old 05-12-2020, 11:17 AM Thread Starter
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From 0 to $$$$$$$$. I know people who have gotten wonderful well trained horses for free. A good friend found one and it was never claimed.
Personally the most I have paid is $2,000 and the least $500. They were both great. Around here a reliable trail horse would be in the neighborhood of $1500, give or take "depending"........



what???? she found one? How do you mean? It was escaped? Or? That's intriguing, tell me! :) Maybe I can find one too if I am really lucky haha. In the meantime looking for alternatives:
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