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post #21 of 33 Old 03-08-2017, 03:15 PM
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As far as the tack question I prefer to have all my stuff used on my leased out horses, I've purchased equipment that fits them and works for them and I'd rather that be used than they try something that doesn't work. I always stipulate that tack MUST be cleaned after every use.
That's how my trainer is (I'm leasing her horse). She let me know that I need to keep the tack clean. Which like I said, is fine with me because I'd keep my own clean too.
I totally agree with this- the tack will fit him and it should be used. But if you absolutely don't want to share, the least she can do is purchase a bit. Unless you purchase the bit for her to use.

It's a tough situation, but it would be good to have some kind of contract.
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post #22 of 33 Old 03-08-2017, 03:52 PM
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Hon, you now own this horse and you are ultimately responsible for his health and welfare along with the decision-maker as to who rides him. Not this girl and not the trainer. By the way, your trainer instigated this borrowing idea and had no right to do so.


I know you want to be nice about it but first you need to clarify with this girl and your trainer exactly who now owns the horse. Be polite but firm in telling them both that you are not willing to loan out your new tack. If you sense that they will ignore you, start taking your stuff home when you leave.


You are a horse owner now. Make sure everyone at the barn is aware that you are the new owner. (By the way, please protect yourself legally and have the previous owner sign a gifting document or a $1.00 bill of sale proving the horse is really yours) . Do what is right for the horse. You are not being selfish to want to keep you new tack to yourself.
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post #23 of 33 Old 03-08-2017, 03:59 PM
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Cultural difference or not, you need some sort of legal protection.
Even a line on a piece of paper that states for instance that the previous owner turned over ownership to you. Signed by you and the previous owner with a witness signature too.


There are many, many posts, not only on this forum but all over the internet where someone "gave" a horse to someone and then claimed ownership and took it back because there was no proof.
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post #24 of 33 Old 03-08-2017, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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Seconding that you still need a bill of sale, JUST IN CASE. :P

If I was going to lease my horse out, I'd expect to provide my leasee with my horse's tack. I'm too picky about how my tack fits my horse, I wouldn't want to think about the possibility that my leasee is riding my horse in a bit/saddle that I haven't approved/that doesnt fit as well as mine. On the other side of it, if I was the one doing the leasing, I wouldn't even consider leasing a horse where I'm required to provide my own tack. Part of the benefit of having a partial lease on a horse is that you don't have to invest money in things like tack.

Do you actually like having her lease Moro? Sure, the financial benefits are awesome, but it sounds like you're not really enthusiastic about sharing him (which is 100% fair, especially since you just got him gifted to you). I'd say just think about whether or not the financial benefits outweigh the freedom/lack of stress of having your horse belong to you and only you.
I knowwww not having a bill of sale in the US/UK/Europe wherever is a BIG no-go, but I swear I asked like 20 separate people here and everyone looked at me like wtf even is that before laughing and saying that thats absolutely unnecessary, and not something that's done here :p

I do want her to keep leasing Moro, not just because of the financial benefits, but because I know she cares about him too, and i would hate to just pull him out from under her when she's attached to him. Plus I probably wouldnt be able to go out to the barn every day (i would if necessary, but I'd have to skip school and drop other activities).

As for tack, everyone keeps saying that the horses' tack is the one that fits him and the one that should be used, just to clarify, SHE HAS BEEN USING HER TACK ON HIM FOR AGES, I JUST BOUGHT MINE YESTERDAY (I borrowed a saddle from a 3rd party before!). The only thing that would change is the bridle, instead of one that came with him (which belongs to his previous owner, who needs it for their new horse), we would be using mine and hers, one with a snaffle and one with a leverage bit.

The only issue i had was that I'd rather have my own set (bridle + snaffle + leverage bit) and have her have her own set (bridle + snaffle + leverage bit) just to avoid situations like 'one of us puts it in a place where the other cant find/access it', and situations where something might break and the person who broke it wont take responsibility.

I'll talk it through with her, explain this reasoning, and it will be ok I'm sure! Thanks everyone for the advice!
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Sorry about that. I think after you talk with her she will hopefully understand and it will go smoothly. :)
Let us know. Good luck!
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Sometimes posters only read the original post, and maybe the first page, before replying. So since they don't read the whole thread they don't realize the issue has been resolved or they miss out on certain details mentioned later. It's not a personal thing, so don't worry about it. :) For those posts, I either repeat myself in another post to answer the same questions again, or I just don't reply.
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I always stipulate that tack MUST be cleaned after every use.
Now I'm curious. What do you mean by cleaning tack exactly? The way I clean my tack, I do it once a month. I take everything apart, wipe off dust with damp rag/sponge, saddle soap, then oil, and I make sure to get into every nook and cranny. It takes me from an hour to two hours, and I usually watch TV while I do it. I can't imagine doing all that every time I ride. Even saddle soap after every ride would be very time consuming.

So do you just wipe off with a damp rag, or saddle soap, or those tack cleaning wipes, or what? I'm just genuinely curious.

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Now I'm curious. What do you mean by cleaning tack exactly? The way I clean my tack, I do it once a month. I take everything apart, wipe off dust with damp rag/sponge, saddle soap, then oil, and I make sure to get into every nook and cranny. It takes me from an hour to two hours, and I usually watch TV while I do it. I can't imagine doing all that every time I ride. Even saddle soap after every ride would be very time consuming.

So do you just wipe off with a damp rag, or saddle soap, or those tack cleaning wipes, or what? I'm just genuinely curious.
We wipe our tack down with a damp sponge and a tiny bit of glycerin soap after every ride. It reduces the need to do those massive take-everything-apart cleanings.

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saddle soap and a damp sponge! Sometimes the tackroom guy does it (its part of his job) but not always cause he has other stuff to do as well, so i always make sure that it gets done either by me or him. I might possibly skip a day if i'm in a really big hurry, but never more than that. of course only if i ride, if it doesnt get used i dont clean it, (though i would, if it were a long period of time, oil it before storing)
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Thought- make sure you have each others info so you can communicate directly instead of through the BO now that it's your own horse. It helps to keep things clear cut!
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