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post #11 of 21 Old 09-14-2015, 01:17 PM
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Most of the time when I hear a new person say the horse won't listen, their aids are conflicting. Your hands, your seat, and your legs all need to be saying the same thing. Often I find someone is kicking with their legs but their seat and/or hands are saying "whoa." Definitely keep at it and invest in some lessons if you aren't already.
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post #12 of 21 Old 09-14-2015, 01:56 PM
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The best trained horses may not perform well for a beginner rider. Horses are taught/trained to respond to specific signals form a riders legs, seat & hands. As a rider you need to understand how to communicate with the horse using cues they have been trained to understand and respond to.

Communication with a horse whether on the ground or in the saddle comes from knowledge and experience. I would suggest looking into horsemanship & riding lessons.
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post #13 of 21 Old 09-15-2015, 04:22 PM
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Usually any horse will figure out within about 30-60 seconds what type of rider is on them and will behave accordingly. My main lesson horse is a fantastic, well behaved ride for the intermediate/advanced rider but is a real stinker the minute a beginner mounts up. He knows every trick in the book to get out of working. I always try to reassure the beginners that he gets better and better as they get better and better as he really does know how to do it the right way!

If you take some lessons you will probably find out that your cues were uncertain, tenative and incorrect causing the horse to take advantage of you. As you become a better rider, most of the misbehavior will stop almost immediately but those first few lessons can be somewhat discouraging.
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post #14 of 21 Old 09-15-2015, 06:39 PM
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When I'm nervous, my horse knows it. When I'm too tired to ride anymore, my horse knows it. It's possible you're sending the signal that you're too scared or worried to ride, and the horses are picking up on that. Because they are prey animals, they need someone confident and ready to ride on their backs, ready to deal with whatever turns up (like a horse-eating dragon or whatever they imagine might be out there waiting to attack them); otherwise, they'll say, "No thanks. Doesn't look like a good time to ride right now. Maybe later when someone who wants to be on my back --and who can have my back-- is there."

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post #15 of 21 Old 09-17-2015, 01:09 AM
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My advice? this is something that you really need to talk about with your instructor and/or the owner of the horse. It's really not up to somebody other than those 1-2 people what commands you give their horse. Each horse is different, as well as no body here is actually watching you ride, so in this case I'd say the only person who should be giving you advice on this is your instructor and the horse's owner. If anyone is ever on my horses and they are having an issue with them, they darn well better me asking me for advice on how to handle my horses rather than asking anyone else, considering I am the owner and it's really not up to anyone else to tell a person how to ride my horses. Just my 2 cents.

Unless I am mistaken and you own said horse? If that is the case then I'd strongly suggest you get an instructor.
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post #16 of 21 Old 09-18-2015, 12:00 PM
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I would not assume that the horse is "testing" you. IMO, testing is when the horse clearly knows what is asked and is saying "NO, and you can't make me." That might be the case or as others have pointed out, you may not be asking correctly, or your seat and balance is such that the horse is not comfortable doing much with you on his back. Exactly what the problem is would be difficult to say without actually seeing how you ride and what the horse is doing. You need an experienced person, ideally a qualified instructor, to help you with this.
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post #17 of 21 Old 09-18-2015, 02:46 PM
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Hello . You are not alone mine was the same and still is in some ways . Every 2 to 3 days are not the same . When he does what I want he it is great but when he does not it is NO fun . I went through years and I Mean years of him no doing what I want but when some other than me went on him OH he would walk, trot .canter and jump no trouble my oh had to walk in front like a carrot to get him to walk for me .He has been schooled we even got a lady called AnnDee out to him but in the end it is sorry to say my horse is not programmed so each day is not the same . Like work and life no 2 to 3 days are the same . He is a lot lot better now than what he was . Some might not like what I said above if not I am sorry . Bye for now . Purplelady
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post #18 of 21 Old 09-18-2015, 03:34 PM
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Tell the horse that if he doesn't listen he'll wind up in a can of dog food and mean it. He doesn't know what you are saying but he'll see the change in your attitude to one of more assertion.



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post #19 of 21 Old 09-18-2015, 11:45 PM
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Most of the time when I hear a new person say the horse won't listen, their aids are conflicting. Your hands, your seat, and your legs all need to be saying the same thing. Often I find someone is kicking with their legs but their seat and/or hands are saying "whoa."
x1000. If you haven't taken riding lessons, you should. There's NO other way you're going to be successful (at least in a reasonable time frame, and without souring your horse) otherwise.
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post #20 of 21 Old 09-19-2015, 03:55 PM
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I think basic lessons are essential. My husband thought he could ride, it looked so easy. He had never been on a horse. I set him up with a couple of lessons and he quickly found out that what looked easy was a lot more involved than he had thought.
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