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post #11 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 11:47 AM
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I would just walk her as well.
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post #12 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:06 PM
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Yep, pay a dollar for her, get a bill of sale & walk her.
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post #13 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:15 PM
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On the walk/ride boat.

Assuming it's safe which it usually is. Did this with a not close neighbor (we're in the middle of the woods) when her horses got loose and we rode them back for her as she is elderly and neither of us had a trailer. A few miles on the highway and the detour on back roads was many more but it was fun.
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post #14 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:19 PM
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Assuming it's safe, just walk her home if it's right next door. Assuming your property is right next door, you probably wouldn't even need to take her on the road. Maybe try to lunge her for a bit and get her good and tired before you go.
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post #15 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:20 PM
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A rather simple, effective method I've had work requires 2 people and assumes the horse is sane.

1 person inside the horse box holding onto the lead rope with light, steady pressure. The other person outside giving the horse firm (but not hard) smacks on the rump in a steady rhythm (1..2..3..4..1..2..3..4..) .

Everytime the horse sniffs, takes a step forward, or shows any kinda interest in going inside- the pressure is released from both ends. If the horse goes backward or starts to panic- don't punish it, you just start over from whatever spot it feels safe. Every time they progress even the slightest, reward them by releasing pressure and give them a moment to think and realize they aren't going to die.

It can take quite a bit of time- so give yourself time to do it. most of the time, with this particular method, takes @ 2 hours most, but some horses can take 4 hours or more.

Light sedatives can help, as suggested.

Also, make sure the trailer is the biggest you have available- and the most open. Horses are claustrophobic creatures and the biggest, lightest (meaning sunlight, not weight) trailer you have available will help the mare not be so prone to panic.
Yes! Oddly enough this non-stop tap, tap, tap really does work for this and for getting any horse to move forward onto wash racks, trailers etc.! You don't have to tap hard, just keep it up and be annoying about it. Have the "tapper" stand to the side so that they don't get kicked and be persistent!! Have them tap on between where the tail is and the top of the hip slightly on the side.

Amazingly this works! It works right away for some horses but takes more time with others.

P.S. Please pay him $1.00 and make him sign a bill of sale with a full description of the horse!!
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post #16 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:30 PM
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You've only got untill Sunday! On the other hand, you've got untill Sunday. If you are feeling the pressure (as would be normal) !, your tension and stress are coming thru to the horse. Add the owner's huge negative emotions into the equation and heck, I wouldnt want to load either if I were the horse. As hard as it is, try to think of it as 'I've got 4 days to get a (possibly)(at the most) 4 hour job done. Whew...a little relief...take a deep breath !!
And, given his apparently unstable emotional state, at least in regard to the horse,,,it's possible the neighbor will change his mind and either extend the time frame, or even decide to sell the horse to recoup his money. It is amazing how people can do a 180 within just 24 hours , much less a few days,,,esp. the more high strung types.
When/if you do take this horse, GET A BILL OF SALE, even if the price is 'gift' , or '$0.00'. You don't want this to turn in to a situation where he could try to get her back.
There's already been some great ideas given. The only thing I can add that might help is to make sure you have the mindset that she will load. period. Our mental attitude just makes so much difference in these situations. It's not easy ! but try.
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Respect......rapport......impulsion......flexion.. .
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post #17 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:36 PM
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had to change computers..so ,to continue... :
It really helped me when I was told to keep Sonny's nose pointing toward the trailer, don't allow him to turn it away. He can drift his rear if he chooses, but that nose is always toward the trailer. The trailer IS the focus, don't get distracted by anything else.

Good luck. stay safe.
keep us updated.

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post #18 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:39 PM
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You've only got untill Sunday! On the other hand, you've got untill Sunday. If you are feeling the pressure (as would be normal) !, your tension and stress are coming thru to the horse. Add the owner's huge negative emotions into the equation and heck, I wouldnt want to load either if I were the horse. As hard as it is, try to think of it as 'I've got 4 days to get a (possibly)(at the most) 4 hour job done. Whew...a little relief...take a deep breath !!
And, given his apparently unstable emotional state, at least in regard to the horse,,,it's possible the neighbor will change his mind and either extend the time frame, or even decide to sell the horse to recoup his money. It is amazing how people can do a 180 within just 24 hours , much less a few days,,,esp. the more high strung types.
When/if you do take this horse, GET A BILL OF SALE, even if the price is 'gift' , or '$0.00'. You don't want this to turn in to a situation where he could try to get her back.
There's already been some great ideas given. The only thing I can add that might help is to make sure you have the mindset that she will load. period. Our mental attitude just makes so much difference in these situations. It's not easy ! but try.
Especially when the child friend comes back crying about her horsie.
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post #19 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:43 PM
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Do you have another horse you could haul over there then take them both back? Make sure it's a good loader. That could be all the new horse needs.

Or...take a Steady Eddie riding horse over there, ride Eddie & have someone lead new horse.
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post #20 of 59 Old 10-29-2014, 12:58 PM
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Just wanted to add "Monty Roberts — 'If you act like you've only got fifteen minutes, it will take all day. Act like you've got all day, it will take fifteen minutes.'"
;)

Don't let him stress you out!
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