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post #1 of 6 Old 02-11-2015, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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I did it!

This probably belongs in riding, but I'm still a very new rider so I hope it's ok here.

I've been struggling (with trainer) with my horse for the last 2 weeks - he just would get all Snotty McBossyPants when asked to trot - head snaking, back-end-buck/hopping, the whole bit. We tried lunging, just powering through -- nothing. I was beginning to believe he was just Too Much For Me and I should give up (because this was REALLY rattling my confidence) -- but today we did it!

Using the magical technique of "Since he is being an ***, pull up his head and hold it - he does NOT get ANY rein and there will be NO snaking - and he can just COPE, and if he starts to behave he can have his head back" we corrected the problem and actually got MULTIPLE trotting diagonal changes in! HOORAY! (Al never did get much rein in the lesson, as he could not resist Naughtiness) I know we were doing good work because he was mentally just *shot* by the end. Not getting his way at any point for an entire lesson -- a new record! (*pats self on back*)

I'm just delighted to think we finally found a technique that will get us through to mid-March, and the emergence of Grass (I know Al will be a better horse to ride when he can actually move around in turnout -- I don't blame him for being stir crazy, we all are right now!) I also suspect it won't take a whole lot of "Your Efforts Bring You Nothing" to eliminate this version of Snot Head Behavior. (I look forward, of course, to the next version).

The only downside to this victory is I have lost my excuse not to work on learning my correct diagonals.
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post #2 of 6 Old 02-12-2015, 01:19 AM
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I always wonder, when horse snakes their head around, puts it down at that trot, and is resistent to move forward, is there a physical reason?

It is always best to be sure that you check that horse bad behvior is not based on him trying to tell you , "it hurts!".
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post #3 of 6 Old 02-12-2015, 01:33 AM
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Woohoo! I love that feeling when the horse goes 'fiiiiiiiine, I'll do what you want'. My old QH pulls the snaking card when we're plodding and he wants to stop for a mouthful of grass. Shakes his head to pull the reins out of my hands, then darts down to take a bite. He got a bit of a shock the first time I fought him about it.

I do agree with TinyLily about checking for underlying problems though, unless you've already done so.
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post #4 of 6 Old 02-12-2015, 07:12 AM
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It always feels soon good to make progress, congrats!
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post #5 of 6 Old 02-12-2015, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you everyone! I should have started this by saying we did begin from the "hmm, is something wrong?" route, but he passed at vet and chiro test with flying colors. (He is also consistently sound on lunge, although of course having a rider is very different). I also had a couple more experienced people get on him and
the general consensus was, "Nah, he's just being a brat because he's got your number now."

He's always tended to be pushy, so the acting out/brat behavior is somewhat par for the course with him.
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post #6 of 6 Old 02-12-2015, 02:30 PM
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Great!! thanks for sharing your success story,,,good job with Snotty McBossyPants.

A good excercise to help with knowing your diagonals is to have someone watch you ride the trot. You can be sitting it or posting it, either is fine. And, if you are posting, just don't worry about whether you are 'on' the correct diagonal for the excercise. Also, it can be anyone to help you with this, it doesnt even have to be a horsey person. Ask the person to let you know if you are correct, or not, when you call out the word "now", when his right front leg is moving forward. After you've done that one, then switch to the left front leg to call out. Do it for quite a while, and for several sessions , and it will enable you to 'feel' which leg is moving forward so that you don't have to look down and mess up your balance. (It's also a great excercise to do at the walk, and isolate all 4 feet. It causes you to really focus on the muscles moving under your seat, and to feel when the legs are moving. My instructor wanted me to learn to see,hear, & feel and be able to do those separately to isolate each foot or each pair (trot))
A fun plus if you have someone other than your trainer help you with this excercise would be to impress and amaze your trainer at how well you are always on the correct diagonal.
I'm assuming here that you already know which leg pair is the correct diagonal,just needing to learn how to post it correctly. (rise and fall with the leg on the wall, .ie you go up as the front leg closest to the wall goes forward)


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Be as soft as possible, but as firm as necessary--Pat Parelli
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