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post #21 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 07:44 PM
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My trainer always started her beginner students off in a western saddle - she taught lots of kids and it gave us something to hold onto and feel more stable in while we were learning the basics. Once we could W/T/C comfortably in Western, we were moved to English until we were comfortable with that as well.

I have ridden a lot in both styles and the only thing I have ever had to deal with is a slight teasing by older men who like to joke that English is prissy. I usually shoot something back about how I bet they couldn't stay on in an English saddle and that's as far as it goes. Neither party has ever meant anything truly hurtful or mean.
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post #22 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 07:59 PM
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No hatred, dislike or distrust here. I do both western and english. While my western is not showing and my english is, I love both. Heck, you can't tie a saddle bag full of beer on an english saddle.....just saying.



I think people are just fiercely protective of what they know the best. Many people don't get the opportunity to understand other disciplines. My big discipline weakness is saddleseat.
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post #23 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 08:13 PM
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this looks like you are the model for some kind of 1950's cowgirl poster.

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post #24 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 08:21 PM
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Chocolate AND red wine would make my heart palpitate. and , add in Brad Pitt, and I would need an EMT!
Gerard Butler and that schweet accent, and I truly would need oxygen!
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post #25 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 08:39 PM
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I've never really understood those who try to make a big distinction between Western and English riding. There are some shows where a certain type of tack is required. Aside from that, there are too many varieties of riding and equipment to try to make such simple distinctions.

For example: Is Western riding one handed riding and English riding two handed riding? Much training in "Western" disciplines is done with two hands. Cavalry riders -- who generally rode in what might be considered "English" saddles often had to ride with one hand so they could use the other hand for a saber or lance.

Is Western riding done on a slack rein and English riding done with tight reins? Many people riding in "Western" saddles "bump" their reins. The rein is not slack when it is "bumping". There are also many examples of people riding in "English" saddles with slack reins. There are also examples of riders riding in both types of saddles with no reins at all.

Does the attire of a rider make him a "Western" rider or an "English" rider? Again, aside from showing, I've seen many people riding in a wide variety of attire in various saddles.

What constitutes an "Western" saddle or and "English" saddle? What about Spanish sheepherder saddles, Australian stock saddles, etc. ?

I certainly care less about how a rider is dressed or what type of saddle he rides in or even what he does while on his horse than than I do about the relationship he has with his horse.

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post #26 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 08:42 PM
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it boils down to ignorance and the few and far between bad examples in each discipline getting more exposure than the majority of us riders that care what our horses feel and think.

the epitome of riding discipline ignorance is at my barn.

"none of my horses will have an english saddle on ever again"

because one, yes, one particular rider caused one of this person's multiple horses to buck said rider off in an english saddle.
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post #27 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 08:49 PM
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like I said.. I have always wanted to learn how to ride english, just the attitude I got when I inquired was a major turn off.. I went out a week later to a western barn and started lessons there no problem.. Maybe it is something I can always pick up later, but I would imagine self teaching yourself how to ride english is a bad thing..LOL

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post #28 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 09:52 PM
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You can get the nuts and bolts down ginger, but for real finesse English riders should have professional instructions, especially if they want to jump.

I learned to ride a balanced English seat first, and decided to try learning at least the basics of Western pleasure. I honestly felt like a fish out of water.

I've come to the conclusion that I can admire the Western disciplines without wanting to participate in them.

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post #29 of 41 Old 11-10-2014, 10:25 PM
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In my area, people aren't really against each other because of the disciplines, people get snotty when people do not ride correctly in general. It's pretty peaceful between the english and the western riders! Some do have things against barrel racing, but it's because the people who run barrels in my area are always yanking on their horses mouths and using ridiculous bits on good horses! I personally ride both, but prefer english, so I appreciate both disciplines!
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post #30 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 09:12 AM
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In my area, it's probably split 50/50 English and Western. At my barn, it is probably more like 75% Western and 25% English. I always enjoy watching the English riders, they look so polished and regal.

I, on the other hand, most likely look like a cow herder to them! That's OK though, as long as everyone is having fun and being safe-- I couldn't care less.
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