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post #31 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 10:21 AM
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Any well-educated horseman or horsewoman respects every discipline and event, and knows the amount of training and work that goes into achieving it.

Anyone who bashes or hates on a specific sport .... well, I'll stop there.

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post #32 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 07:33 PM
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I've never experienced any hate between different style riders. I ride both but my primary style is western and all the english riders I've met have been just as polite to me as I have to them.
I think just as any situation it's how you present yourself and how you treat others.

I'm sure there are some bad apples out there that have issues but well thats their problem now isn't it? I'm just going to ride how me and my horse like and smile and wave if I ever run into someone like that.
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post #33 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 07:38 PM
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Honestly didn't notice that there was so much bitterness. I pride myself in being a well rounded horsewoman; I believe there are challenges in both English and Western riding, and don't have anything against anybody that rides Western (I ride predominately English [Jumpers]). I have shown in both disciplenes at high competitive levels, and can see the positives in both.

Where is the bitterness found? I've never experienced it, personally.
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post #34 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 08:30 PM
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I'm going to go with experiencing or witnessing bad experiences more so than good ones.. then leading to assumption or hasty generalizations about an entire discipline.

Not a smart move.

Honestly I love both for different reasons. Anytime Sorrelhorse posts a video of her reining on her mare, Selena.... my heart literally stops it's so beautiful and coordinated.

I love watching cutting pairs, barrel racing I'm a little under exposed to (usually I've only seen BAD examples) but I try and keep an open mind...

Now I see ugliness in English riding too. And that's what my horse and I do.
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post #35 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 08:55 PM
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Same reason some people are racist - pure ignorance. 'Nuff said.

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post #36 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 09:48 PM
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I don't see much antagonism between English and Western, but I surely do see it between the "haves" and the "have-nots."

Those that don't dress just right, or have matching tack, or attend the right shows, or right endurance rides, or can't get out as often as others because of life's responsibilities vs. those that are dressed to the nines, whether flashy or neat for the show, or the latest weather gear on the trials, those with the latest saddle pad, the newer trailers, the nicest dressing rooms, etc. etc. That is what I see around here. Its the ones that invest tons of money vs. the ones that don't. Same as every other social clique. Ick.
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post #37 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 09:54 PM
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While living in Calgary, I bo't my pally mare and knowing I'd be buying a top of the line saddle, the decision had to be made whether English or western. Since I'd be doing mainly trail riding I opted to buy western gear. Fast forward, have to board my mare at my old Wpg stable while I shopped around for a place to permanently board her. The only western in an all English barn. The little snots had a field day. A show was to take place not a mile away and a little half-boarder was going to be horseless and was in tears. I borrowed English tack, worked with her for 5 days (horse getting used to short legs vs my long legs). Guess who beat out everyone from this barn plus 25 others-my western mare. The best part was the lesson the young ladies had learned as they treated us with a whole lot of respect after that.



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post #38 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 10:21 PM
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I haven't really had experience with western and english riders disliking each other. But then again, I live in a very western area and don't know any serious english riders. Amongst my friends, our idea of riding english is throwing an english saddle on our western-trained horses.

I know of some conflict of gaited vs. non-gaited riders. But that mainly is due to the difference in speed in which the horses travel. It can be hard trail riding them together. And having owned both, I would say it's harder on the non-gaited rider when riding in a mixed group. But still, that's no reason to dislike each other, right!?

So yeah, I always thought horse people had more in common that not, but I guess wherever you have people, you will have cliques.

I like to think of horses as a unifying factor though, not as something that separates us.

I have also encountered breed prejudices. Namely coming from stock horse people when I owned Arabians. But I always say the proof is in the pudding, and my Arabians carried me safely everywhere. So anything derogatory they said just kind of looked stupid on their part because I put more miles on my horses than they did theirs.


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post #39 of 41 Old 11-11-2014, 11:14 PM
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I have found a lot of hatred in the English Community being a guy, that was a beginner and over 200 pounds wanting to learn to ride..
Yeah I think a girl over 200 pounds wanting to learn would run into the same issues, Western in general is more accepting of bigger people.

I have ridden both English and Western, and I love both. They call for different skill sets in a way, but both are easy to do badly and hard to do well

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post #40 of 41 Old 11-12-2014, 12:12 AM
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Meh... I think the distinction between western and english riding is hard enough to define in and of itself. My BFF rides in an english saddle and barrel races, only used a western saddle when at a race, does that make her an english rider or a western rider?

To me it doesn't even matter because I choose to at least try to understand both and that shows, I picked coach does both and teaches both (she mostly shows/prefers english but has spent time working with some great reining and cutting trainers and does some driving too).

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