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post #1 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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inquiring about a horse for sale

so i am currently searching for my first horse and have found a few i really like that i would be interested in knowing more information about or even going to look at. the ones i am very interested in i have found on facebook, so they just say to private message them for more info. so i have just a few questions what i should be saying when i inquire about a horse for sale.

1. what i have been saying when i first private message them is basically:
"hi i was on the facebook page _____ and saw your horse _____ for sale. i was interested in him/her and was wondering if he/she is still available. if so, could i please have some more information? i also have a few questions. if you could please message me back when you have the time, that would be great. thanks".
- any way i word this i feel like it sounds weird. i just dont know what all i should be saying in the first message. like should i say all my questions and for photos/videos right away? should i tell them my riding abilities and what i want the horse to be able to do? do people even want me to share that information with them? do i discuss price right away? but what if the horse isnt available? then whats the point of typing and them possibly reading this whole long message of info and questions if the horse is already sold?

2. when is it an appropriate time to ask some of the not so basic questions? like i typically ask about height, color, breed, age, bad habits, vices, and for pics and videos right away. but when is it okay to start asking more about like personality and if its a mare, if shes marish? if its good in a stall, in an indoor, been to shows, ect. i dont want to be too forward, but i also want to know a descent amount about the horse before i even tell my trainer about him/her. and especially know all these things before i visit the horse.

3. do you ask about like tack, suppliments, sizes, ect. before you even meet the horse?

4. how long should i be talking to the owner about the horse before i go visit him/her? and what all should i know about the horse?

if someone could kinda just give me a little outline, or tell me something i should be doing or doing differently, that would be awesome. please feel free to share some questions i should be asking the owner as well. thanks!
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post #2 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 11:21 AM
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YOU are the one with the money. Don't be shy! You are holding the cards here.

I only would caution that you feel out the owner with your basic questions first and then ask more detailed questions. No need to waste time when the horse is not what you want. You should go see the horse once you know you are interested in it.

I also suggest you make a list with the most important questions at the top, and write down the answers. Even the most honest sellers will downplay the problem areas and highlight the selling points. It is up to you to figure out what is not being said.

To me, the most important questions often fudged are temperament, training & experience, and health. Focus on the details of those. Listen carefully for red flags (could be waffling answers or little niggling worries, anything), and write them down as they come up so you don't downplay or conveniently forget them yourself because you have fallen in love with an unsuitable horse.

Don't ask about tack until you are sure you are interested. Most horses are sold without.

If you are inexperienced, please try to take an experienced friend or teacher with you to look at the horse. There's nothing more valuable than the input of a horse-savvy person with no skin in the game.
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post #3 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 11:38 AM
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Agree with above ^^^.

Here's what I'd do:
I would not say I'm interested, I'd just message and say "is your _____ horse still available and if so can you send me pictures and videos and all pertinent details including stats and price to (enter your email here)."

You can save this on a word doc and paste it in so there's less typing. If this is offensive to anyone, you don't want that horse.

And if they haven't taken any time to get some good pictures that's often a sign of how good the horse is. It always surprises me when someone puts up an ad and only has one crummy picture of a horse standing in a muddy paddock barely facing the camera. I figure if that's as much effort as they put in, then that says something about them in general and they probably haven't put much effort into the horse either.
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post #4 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 12:12 PM Thread Starter
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thank you so much for the answers so far!

just a few things to clear up: im glad to hear im somewhat on the right track!
i do ask the basic questions first, and then if i am still interested i keep asking other questions, i dont want to be wasting my time or theirs. im just afraid of being too forward & blunt, but i guess thats what i have to do if im interested and the owner wants to sell!
i also already have a list of questions and the answers of the horse i am currently very interested in. i have other questions on that list, but i wasnt sure when an appropriate time would ask them be. i think i may just ask the owner tonight. i go through all messages and information with my trainer, so we discuss it together about both of our thoughts and what is true and if the horse would be good for me or not.
my trainer is very involved with everything i do, its just up to me to be talking and asking questions to the sellers. my trainer is coming with me to look at the horse/s.


EponaLynn - i learned that the hard way already! there was this horse i was very interested in and the owner could give me any information i asked and praised the horse like crazy, but when it came to pictures..they were awful. then i asked for a video, once i finally recieved it, it was even worse then the pictures. i started asking for a better video and she just kept delaying and giving me excuses..so i finally passed on that horse and was glad i did as a few weeks later i saw some descent pictures and other information of the horse and she was not at all as advertised - over weight, lacking muscle, horrible confirmation, and just not at all what i was looking for!
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post #5 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 12:29 PM
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Yes, I wouldn't not even go and see a horse without pictures and video. It's pretty standard these days.
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post #6 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 12:41 PM
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I would not begin by giving information about yourself, your experience, what type you are looking for. The responses could be tailored to fit your needs.

I would ask a bit more than just 'is horse still available'. As you could be seen as a looky-loo.

As for basic info. Age, height, training, how long have they owned the horse, location (general area to find the distance from you). And of course for additional pictures and/or videos.
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post #7 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 08:00 PM
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I would not begin by giving information about yourself, your experience, what type you are looking for. The responses could be tailored to fit your needs.

I would ask a bit more than just 'is horse still available'. As you could be seen as a looky-loo.

As for basic info. Age, height, training, how long have they owned the horse, location (general area to find the distance from you). And of course for additional pictures and/or videos.
Yes, I'd get them to tell you all about the horse first. Then they can't tailor it to your needs!
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post #8 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 08:31 PM
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Yup, find out if you are interested (basic questions) then tell them a little about yourself. It's ok to "upplay" this but be honest (don't say "I have no idea!" that's asking for trouble, but you can and should say "I have x years of riding and work with my trainer regularly who will be helping me with this purchase and with the horse in the future, that way you get across you are a beginner but you don't sound helpless)

Also price, it is good to ask if they are firm on the price but that should be "further down the road" and any actual negotiations on price should NOT happen until after you've decided you really want the horse and have had the horse examined by a vet and your trainer. You want to know EXACTLY what you want and what you are dealing with, and have your trainers say so on it, before saying any numbers.

With pretty much anything (horse, dog, couch, tv, lol!) my standard message is "is x still available? I am interested if so. (any specific questions that would make or break right there, say you want to jump and it says "may not be suitable for jumping" I WOULD flat out ask "why not as I do want to jump", don't waste time on very black and white questions like that) Can you tell me more about x?" Sometimes you won't even get a response, when you do obviously respond to what they specifically asked and I will also add my second set of questions "I really want a horse that's good on trails, has he been out on the trails before? how was he?" "anything I should know? any health issues?" Only after you've decided you like the horse and are actually interested will I move on to more minor questions "does she have shoes?" "does she get along well in turnout?" and a lot of those more minor questions (things that are nice to know but aren't a huge deal or you could figure out on your own) I would save until you have made an appointment to see the horse and ask in person.

When you go to see the horse (bring your trainer, and when you make the appointment ask any specific questions your trainer may have) you can ask those minor questions as well as see and handle the horse, just observe, ask anything that may pop into your head, and of course ride and try out the horse to see how you like him/her in person.

While questions and narrowing down to the ones you are interested in is very good keep in mind if you ask a million questions but don't ask about actually seeing the horse the owner may feel you aren't actually interested. The big questions are good to ask of course but then if you think the horse is a potential match just go see it!
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post #9 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 09:19 PM
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I would not begin by giving information about yourself, your experience, what type you are looking for. The responses could be tailored to fit your needs.

I would ask a bit more than just 'is horse still available'. As you could be seen as a looky-loo.

As for basic info. Age, height, training, how long have they owned the horse, location (general area to find the distance from you). And of course for additional pictures and/or videos.
Ann has made an excellent point about not divulging what exactly you are looking for. I would ask questions such as "What level rider is the horse suitable for?" instead of "I am looking for something I can show on an intermediate level" Keep in mind that even an honest seller is going to give you a sales pitch. If someone says the horse is jumping 3'6" combinations that is probably the truth. If they say the horse is good on the trail, that may just be their opinion. I would make a list of all the "must be" and "can't be" that you are looking for in your new horse. You can also make a third list of things that would be nice but really don't matter if the horse is everything else you want.
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post #10 of 14 Old 12-10-2015, 09:21 PM
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I think the basic stats should be in the ad (age, gender, height, breed, training, couple of decent pictures). I would probably not even consider a horse where they e.g. conveniently left out the age.

I would not be shy to ask questions about things that are important to you, but I would keep it down to about 2-3 interactions before suggesting to come see the horse. I find long back-and-forth questions a bit tedious. So I'd rather summarize all important questions in one message.

I would ask open questions (so instead of "I am looking for a trail horse, has she been out on trails?" I would ask "Could you tell me more about the things you have been doing with the horse?".
Some sellers try to lure you into coming to see the horse, so they can try to talk you into it in person. I found it incredibly annoying to drive for hours only to find out that the horse is nothing like they descibed, or to find out that they ommitted something really important " Oh, we forget to mention that the horse is unrideable... so sorry." Ehat arr they thinking? That I will buy the horse anyways, just cause I'm already there?
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