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post #11 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxhunter View Post
I agree that it sounds you are being to soft with her.

My first thought when you said that with grass and grain she is gaining weight, my forst thought was that she is getting way to much feed.

Also if she is being fed hard food, bring her in for her grain.

What happens if you catch the other horse and take it in and then go back to catch her?

I was taught that any horse being brought in for work should come into a stable where there is something for them to eat. This might be an apple or carrot in the manger or a feed.

Also have you had your saddle checked that it does fit her?
This is what worked for me in a similar situation. Halter and bring in for a treat. Maybe work, maybe don't. As a temporary fix, maybe a neck strap she wears that you would be able to get your hands on to hold her (unless she is stubborn enough to break away and ignore pressure) and a light war bridle (rope/cord) halter in your pocket to be able to halter her to bring her in until you can change her attitude and she likes to come in. Just a suggestion.
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post #12 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 12:18 PM
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I have this problem with my gelding when he gets loose. He's fine to catch in a pasture, but if he gets out of the pasture he'll run and avoid you like the plague. I find that of I take a whip with me, and chase him around, he gets tired of being chased and eventually comes right to me.

I don't baby talk him, I don't bring him treats, I don't allow him to stop and eat or relax at all. I keep his feet moving, invade his space, chase him all around the property if I have to until he's licking and chewing and dropping his head. Then I stop and allow him to walk up to me. Then I throw a lead over his neck, put the halter on him and only then does he get a treat.

You need to go into that pasture like your Billy Ray bad butt. Your the big man on campus and she's going to respect you or else she's going to be running for a while. Take a lunge whip with you and chase her around for a bit. Establish your leadership. She only gets to rest when she's accepted that your the boss and has come to you and accepted the halter.
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post #13 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 01:56 PM
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I also have a gelding who can be hard to catch...I do the same thing. Separate him from his friends and force him to move. I think he finally decides being caught is the less of two evils. With that said, he still tries to evade me when I go out there so I don't think we have the problem solved completely....but I never give up. One way or another I'm getting a halter on him. Even if I just end up feeding him a carrot and taking it off a minute later.
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post #14 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 02:46 PM
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My first suggestion (and the best one for you and this horse) is that you return her to the Rescue Centre and look for a horse that's got a good proven history of being a sensible riding horse
If you do decide to keep her then consider how she was kept for the bulk of her life - she's a an OTTB, she was used to being stabled - being stabled was 'natural' to her, she was used to being handled constantly by people who don't have time to mess around with the horse when they behave like diva's and she was used to being worked hard and she was used to a consistent timetable
It sounds to me as if she's gone a little bit feral with access to too much freedom, possibly too much food and no recognizable routine
If you can, fence her on to a small paddock either on her own or with one other sensible horse. She needs to rely on you for everything, right now she has no need for you at all because all her food is in the field and all her entertainment comes from her horsey buddies
Get her into a routine where she has to come in every day for her feed - I would stable her at night until the two of you have reached a better place in your relationship and if she also needs to rely on hay in her paddock then better still
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post #15 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 02:50 PM
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For those that evade capture,walking them down works. mine are all pretty easy to catch but I have had some over years that decide no i'm not coming & take off like they are saying na-na-nana.... That's it for me!! they are banished from there friends & food. I keep on them to move keeping them away from their friends,keeping them at bay from what they want. you will be surprised how soon they give in,at least in my experience they show submission & turn to you & say oh,ok. Can walk up put halter on & away we go!! Next time you go out to catch they may try again, well fine then repeat the process & they soon go oh no she is doing that again!! ok, i give up. The catching problem,does very soon become a non issiue
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post #16 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 03:20 PM
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I second Bondre's method except in the beginning I like to circle way around until behind the horse. Still back well out of kicking distance. If the horse is paying no attention, run up and startle it, arms flapping but don't yell at it. The horse will likely scoot off but it will turn and see what it was that ran up. Start circling around again. It may take a repeat but after that the horse will make it difficult for you to get behind it. Great. In the meantime you've asserted your dominance and only a dominant horse makes another move.

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post #17 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 06:29 PM
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I was going to essentially say the same thing as most people. There's actually a YouTube video out there I was trying to find that addressed this.

Anyways if she won't come to you, make her work. Bring in a lunge whip or something that you can use to make her have to trot around and keep her moving. If she isn't going to come to you, don't let her just go eat some grass and stand around. Keep her working and moving. Eventually she'll get tired and will come to you. When she stops and faces you, that's your key that she's opening up to allow you to catch her. Have a treat in your pocket and give it to her once she does let you get her.

Just show her you are the boss
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post #18 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 08:56 PM
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Walking down a horse is hard to do if they are in a large group and in a large pasture (ours is 30 acres). but, what can help is to put out several handfuls of hay on the ground to entice the group to come and linger, but then, do NOT allow your victim to get near even a bite. keep chasing him/her off the food, until he stands submissivley and lets you catch him.
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post #19 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 09:20 PM
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Well, she is being a horse. Horse do prefer the company of her own kind, and as a former stalled horse, she is enjoying her freedom
You also changed her feed, esp adding grain, and also, she no longer depends on a human to feed her, as she has pasture
There is also the fact that many rescue horses are not in prime condition, and once their feed and body condition improves, they have added energy, and the 'true' horse comes out
What to do?
Well, as you found out, horses get very smart about evading being haltered, and also know when your presence without halter, is not a threat, far as taking them from buddies and the life style they are enjoying
Thus, never try to sneak up on a horse,try and catch him with treat, ect. Walk them down, treat them AFTER they have been haltered and led to the barn.
Make them dependent on you for food. In other words, take away that endless pasture feast, put them somewhere where there is limited pasture, and halter them and take them to the barn to feed
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post #20 of 21 Old 11-27-2015, 09:28 PM
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Ps, i never walked a horse down, as I have plenty of broke horses to ride and do that on
My husband's trail horse used to be hard to catch, after a trip to the mountains. He did have a good reason, as hubby hardly rode him around home, then he was ridden for several days in the mountains. I have enough of my own horses to ride, so can't keep hubby's horse ridden.
I would simply ride Frankie down, on my more fit horse, until Frankie came up, and just stood there to be haltered.
None of my horses now are hard to catch. I also don't work them , each time I halter them. Sometimes I just bring them in to trim feet. Sometimes they have corral time, during the summer, and are fed a little treat in the corral. Sometimes they are worked.
They also all spend some time after being ridden just tied up in the barn alone, and not always just returned to buddies
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