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post #31 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 12:20 PM
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Just two thoughts building on what you've just said

1) Remember that when you're new to something you don't know what it is that you don't know. Self learning can work well; but can also mean you've got gaps and you've already found that out. What you felt you knew you likely knew well in theory; but because your reading and googling/searching was focused on what you did know somewhat you left out things that you didn't even know were there to search for.
It's one of the big drawbacks to self-learning.

2) One thing I've heard a good few times (and somewhat experienced but not to any great degree) is that separating 1 horse from a group of horses sounds really easy - but in practice can be harder. Horses being a herd animal their instinct and desire is to remain in the group; thus separating one out to ride or work with has to come with the right method or things will go wrong; this will also extend out into training/working with the horse whilst you could still be on site and thus within sight/earshot of the rest of that horses "herd"
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post #32 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 12:25 PM
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Geld the colt and put them together. It will make a better life for both horses.
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post #33 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 01:48 PM
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Please believe this: an older, well-trained, very steady horse plus a companion horse who is also older and steady is what you should be trying for. No matter what you have read or watched, it is nothing, NOTHING like the reality of owning and riding horses. You may not realize it now, but please believe that you don't know anything at all, it is all to learn. No matter how perfect a beginner horse you get -- and those perfect beginner horses are not easy to find nor cheap -- you will struggle and flail and make ignorant mistakes, hopefully not irreparable ones. Those are the facts.

You should not even think about any untrained horse right now and if you turn out to be like the large majority of riders, ever.
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post #34 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by beverleyy View Post
I hope your mother can afford a good trainer. I also hope she has a really good job.
^^^^With Really good health insurance.
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post #35 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 02:36 PM
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OP - I would highly suggest that you take lessons, then lease then purchase and all for at least 1 years time. So a horse purchase would be 2 years in the future.

You mention getting an older horse and companions, I noticed that your state is mentioned as New Mexico. I do not live in that part of the US but it seems to me that it would be considered a desert state. Where horse keeping is quite expensive. There is so much more to owning a horse than buying it and grooming it. You may have a pasture but is there something there for the horses to eat? And just because it is green does not mean there is enough for the horse to eat. Horses do not eat where they poop. So unless you plan on cleaning all piles out of a pasture on a daily basis you are going to need a few acres per horse to have them graze enough to fulfill their nutritional needs. Do you know how much a bale of hay costs in the area you live in? In my area I feed my horse approx. 20lbs of hay per day - and my horses get grain and have a pasture. A bale of hay here averages $3.50-$4.50 in a good year. In a drought year that price can double or triple. My horses feet are trimmed every 6 weeks at a cost of $40/each horse (I have 4 horses) that is just a trim and no shoes. What is that cost in your area? My horses Coggins and yearly shots average $125/horse - these are just the standard shots and not an emergency visit. What do those things cost in your area? My vet is coming tomorrow to clean my geldings sheath and check all of the horses teeth. You have said you know to float teeth every year but do you know the cost in your area?

Where will you ride? Believe me - riding in you home pasture gets really boring and if you do not own a truck and trailer that is where you will be stuck. Finding someone who is willing to pick you up and haul you somewhere is hard.

And you also mention that your Mom wants to get sheep and other livestock - most people do not pasture horses with sheep or many other livestock as they compete for pasture. And sheep will eat a pasture down to the roots just like a horse will. Do you have enough room for all of this livestock?

These are just a small run down of the costs of owning a horse - it is thousands of dollars a year - and a huge time commitment. Try some lessons first and then lease a horse - that is by far the best way to determine if you have the time and money to eventually own one.

And a last thought - what will your Mom do with all of these horses if and when you move away for college or other reasons?
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post #36 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 02:47 PM
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Colts have been known to bred mares as young as yearlings, thus , if you don't intend to run a breeding business, geld that colt!
You need to keep them separate, even then, for a month or so, as viable sperm will remain
There is absolutely no reason to keep a stud intact, unless he is breeding material
Just a separate pen, with a common fenceline, is not enough for now. You will have a wreak, soon as that mare comes in heat!
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post #37 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 03:00 PM
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Horses are A LOT of responsibility. If something could happen, 9 times out of 10, it could. I agree, everyone starts somewhere, but, online research just doesn't cut it. Vet expenses are crazy no matter why - a simple fecal exam or bloodwork is normally $25. That's if you haul to the office, a farm call is even higher.
I was stubborn and young once but I had ridden, worked on farms during the summer, and had learned everything I knew from experienced trainers. My third horse was a "rescue" - a cute little red dun QH stud - but by that time I knew what I was doing. He had his own pasture, feeding regimen, training schedule, and he knew who was boss at all times until he was gelded(he wasn't fully dropped until he was 3).

Saddle fitting certain horses can be a pain. Do you know anyone/anywhere that will let you trial a saddle? The bridle must fit the horses head properly, as well as the right size bit.

Do you have a vet, dentist, farrier, etc lined up? Your horse will need all of them.

Will you be able to bale your own hay from your farm or will you be buying hay? If so, round or square? What type of feed will you be feeding?

There's a lot more than "oh I want this horse" to a horse!

Not being rude in the least but before you decide a horse is right for you, right now, check your local area for the cost of feed/hay, check out vets, & farriers. It will help in the long run.
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post #38 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 03:15 PM
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You have a lot of really good advice here; just wanted to mention that there is not such thing as "just wanting to trail ride"; you will need a good, well trained horse for this and, believe me, more than a few lessons to be doing this safely.
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post #39 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks everyone! just to let you all know i am first before anything settle in to the new home and maybe look up the things i need to like farriers, farm for hay(or which type i feed i give them), make sure there is a local horse vet. I am taking all precautions. I have thought getting a horse for over a year and a half now and i do want to get one. The thing is i DO want to care for the horse every thing included in owning one. I am aware that not every day gonna be a good one (and trust i know i will fall off lol) but i will take it step by step, making sure everything is prepared for the horse. I will try out horses a couple of times to make sure they are right for me.
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post #40 of 48 Old 03-22-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Horse View Post
So how much hands on experience do you have to back up all this research? How long have you been riding, what sort of lessons? Who is going to help you with this horse
Still wondering about these points....
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