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post #21 of 36 Old 06-26-2016, 11:43 AM
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This picture shows hunters following hounds, back then they rode with a much longer stirrup even so their legs were still under them and they were leaning forward keeping some of the weight out the saddle though not very effectively.
Seeing such old paintings doesn't mean a lot, look at the horses legs in the rocking horse position, they never got that right and probably not the orders either.
It wasn't until the early 1900s that jockeys started riding shorter and much later when it was realised that by adopting the monkey position that race times improved significantly.

As I said earlier, back then horses were dispensable.
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The picture the OP posted is from a current website offering a horseback riding vacation on Marwari Endurance horses in India.
It is not about riding from the 1800s.

Custom Marwari Ride- A custom trip for riding in India

This is the same picture that the OP posted and the one on the website.


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I found a youtube video of a Malwari Horse Ride. The rider's leg position changes, sometimes it is in front of his body (at 1:10 in video) with more angle in his knee than the OP picture and sometimes his leg is more under his body. When it is more in front, I don't think it is as straight as the rider's in the OP picture, but that could be to do with stirrup length, how the rider sits in the saddle, personal preference, and even the exact type of saddle.


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Seeing the premises of the picture - the rider has halted his horse and is talking to the woman - he might just be resting/stretching his legs. Why, I even have a picture of myself somewhere, doing the same during a clinic and naively hoping that nobody would notice.

However, when googling "Marwari horse riding" I did find quite a lot of pictures like these, however, they all seem attributed to traditional tack/riding style, nothing more contemporary like jumping, polo, or even simply trail riding. Might be a cultural thing, linked to the horses' way of going and the tack itself, and not something I see as practical and safe.









However, I find more of these:











As far as I see, stretching the leg forwards that much tips the pelvis backwards, shifting the core and the shoulders of the rider backwards in a diagonal line against the horses' spine, which must be creating a lot more uncomfortable pressure. Look, how noticeably inverted those first horses are going. Additionally, the riders hands in this position seem to be bound to brace, as his body is searching for balance.

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However, I find more of these:



I think this picture is of the man that is in youtube video I posted above.

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I tried the legs forward today and my toes kept hitting my arab's elbows. So I tried pulling my leg away from this body. That felt insecure. I could almost lie down the length of his back. Ok I suppose for ducking low limbs out on the trail, but that was the only benefit. Plus my knees started to hurt and my knees never hurt from riding.

So, I tried it and it didn't work for me.
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yes, you ride with your legs under you

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me, not perfect, but on the flat



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many moons ago, when I first started to show, I had an equitation saddle, which does not allow you to bring your legs forward, when you need to.
Bought my balance ride saddle, with free moving stirrup fenders after that, as when I tried to sit with that equitation saddle, in a sliding stop, almost went over the hrose's head, as I could not bring my legs forward, when I needed to
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Something to consider with the Marwari horse in particular is that many of them are gaited.
While I've never seen anyone ride quite so "off" the front end as these riders, it's common with many gaited breeds that riders will ride with a straighter and more forward leg:
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how interesting! the rider sits way back on the hips of the horse. I've heard it said that this position is actually easier for the hrose, harder for the rider. and awful lot of hard bumping going on. those horses look healthy enough and man! they are zooming along!
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When we had unofficial trotting races taking the ponies bareback out to the fields we found they trotted a lot faster if you shoved your feet forward and leaned right back.

During WW2 my father was part of the N. African campaign, he told the tale of how they were all bored and arranged to have some donkey races. The Arab who provided him with a donkey told Dad to sit well back, practically on its loins, lean back and shove his feet forward.
Proudly he said he won easily but had blisters the size of a saucer on each cheek of his butt!
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During WW2 my father was part of the N. African campaign, he told the tale of how they were all bored and arranged to have some donkey races. The Arab who provided him with a donkey told Dad to sit well back, practically on its loins, lean back and shove his feet forward.
Proudly he said he won easily but had blisters the size of a saucer on each cheek of his butt!

Small world, I have a picture of my father, same war, same campaign, riding a donkey. I wonder if they raced against each other.

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