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post #1 of 18 Old 05-30-2014, 09:12 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up "As long as he dosin't have to see it" bridling miracle

I moved to a new barn with a new trainer with all new knowledge.

I have a horse whom until yesterday was deathly afraid of the headstall. I have had many professional trainers give me advice but yesterday was different. The trainer put a pan of grain on the ground letting my horse go in for a bite while at the same time putting the bit in his mouth then while my horse was so happy with the taste of the grain she put it over his ears by tilting the ears one by one starting with the off side forward and guiding the headstall over without tutching the ears at all witch I thought was almost impossible when it came to my very large eared horse. Now that the trainer had gotten the headstall on with no complaints from my horse she slowly took it off sliding it down his nose instead of pulling if forward off of his face and then down out of his mouth. Now putting it back on the second time without the grain: Rubbing it on his face a little bit being gentle then standing on the left side of the horse with the bridle in her left hand under the nose and the right hand ebove my horses ears coaxing his head down a bit she put the headstall on my horses nose so that either side of the headstall was on either side of his nose then sliding the headstall up his face and then grabbing it with her right hand and slidingg it up his face and then over the ears without any trouble she did this a couple more times and then handed it to my where I proseeded to do this for another 20 minutes without any head throughing or complaints from my horse he even stuck his nose out in want of the headstall a few time Ahhh I'm so happy! The one thing she said that stuck in my head and really clicked was "He doesn't mind so much if he doesn't have to see it". My horse has obviously been abused in the past probably being hit in the face or something but neither of us have to be reminded of that anymore!

I have a YouTube channel and will be making a step by step video of what I had done the previpous few weeks before the bridling and how exactly a now bridle him and will post it soon!

Sorry for the very unorganized post but I just thought id blurt this out just in case it could help somebody!
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post #2 of 18 Old 05-31-2014, 08:08 PM
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I presume by 'headstall' you mean bridle. Very good to hear! Sounds like you've finally found a considerate trainer! I wouldn't assume it's about him not seeing it though, and I wouldn't conclude that his aversion to it means past abuse - could be just lack of considerate training, being too confrontational, not desensitising the horse... I do suspect though, if he's now so good, with you too, after only one session with her, he was probably well trained at some point.
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post #3 of 18 Old 06-01-2014, 12:02 AM Thread Starter
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In the western world where I spend most of my time we call it a headstall not a bridle. My previous trainer was a genius and I'm sure she knows more that the new trainer but the new trainer definitely has some different knowledge! I have spent countless hours using hundreds of different techniques to help my horse come to terms with the inevitable putting on of the headstall and after working with him today I can surly say that taking into count the "He doesn't mind it if he doesn't have to see it" realization is exactly what we needed to continue learning and to work through this restricting issue. Sunny my horse will let me do whatever I want with his ears and head except if it has anything to do with a headstall he is not at all a hot horse so along with the opinions of a few trainers and Sunny's previous owners we have all come to the conclusion that he has had abuse inflicted on him in the past, I have taken into consideration that it might have been a one time thing that caused this and most people say that before they work with him but by the specific way he acts when bridling you can tell that it was not just a one time thing! Sunny was owned by a very well known trainer by the name of Ann Kirk for many years he was her main man so he was definitely desensitized quite a bit between the ages of 2 and 6 witch continued when his last owner bought him from her and I have done an immense amount of desensitizing whilst I've owned him also and again by the way he acts it seams very unlikely that that would be the cause of this. He is extremely well trained he just has headstall issues.

I just posted this in case it might help someone with the same issue I had.
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post #4 of 18 Old 07-22-2014, 12:29 AM
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Congrats :)

Always nice to just suddenly move past what was previously a big issue.
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post #5 of 18 Old 07-22-2014, 01:57 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you!
It's been a month sense I posted this and we are doing very well when it comes to training!!
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post #6 of 18 Old 07-22-2014, 05:19 AM
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I'd love to see a video of this!
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Huh it came up on the recent threads... but congrats anyways lol.
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post #8 of 18 Old 07-22-2014, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LyraFreedom View Post
In the western world where I spend most of my time we call it a headstall not a bridle. ...
My understanding has always been that a headstall becomes a bridle once you add a bit and reins, regardless of discipline.
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post #9 of 18 Old 07-22-2014, 11:15 PM Thread Starter
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A bridle is English and a Headstall is Western.
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post #10 of 18 Old 07-23-2014, 12:53 AM
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The headstall is the part that goes on the head. It's still called a bridle, western or english. Headstall is just a piece of it, like the bit, reins, throat latch, etc.
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