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post #11 of 19 Old 11-11-2013, 11:07 AM
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look on the ingredient list. if it's only timothy hay, or orchard hay, it's fine. A couple of handfuls, then add some water, siak until they fall apart, and add the supplement.
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post #12 of 19 Old 11-11-2013, 12:56 PM
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I would feed beet pulp pellets. YOU HAVE TO SOAK THEM OVERNIGHT. If you don't soak them the liquid in their stomach will make them puffy and they will colic, in some cases die. So soak soak soak!! I feed beet pulp and alfalfa pellets with alfalfa cubes, and Omeline 100. My horse has arthritis in 2 legs and inflames tissue in one. This seems to keep weight on her because I have troubles with that. I really recommend this diet for non performance horses. Add a powder or pellet or past supplement in and you are set! This diet hasn't failed me or my trainer for 15 years, with MANY different horses. Costs about $100 dollars for three months for 1 horse. Feed with local, timothy, orchard, grass, orchard grass hay, can with alfalfa just take out alfalfa pellets and cubes. Hope this helped!

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Studies have revealed that timothy actually has way more sugar than alfalfa. It's a huge No-No in the IR world, anyhow. Beet pulp too, would have sugar left, no? I'd stick with the smallest amount of soaked alfalfa cubes you can get away with. Maybe some ground flax, too. Jmo.
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I just use a couple of handfuls of 50/50 dry chaff
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Has anyone heard of The Missing Link Ultimate Equine Hip and Joint supplement??
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post #16 of 19 Old 11-19-2013, 11:55 PM
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You can give him a couple of cups of bran mash with his supplements mixed in. It holds the supplements well. Also you can turn him out and rub the arthritic leg with liniment once or twice a day that will help with stiffness and pain.
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I would feed beet pulp pellets. YOU HAVE TO SOAK THEM OVERNIGHT. If you don't soak them the liquid in their stomach will make them puffy and they will colic, in some cases die. So soak soak soak!! I feed beet pulp and alfalfa pellets with alfalfa cubes, and Omeline 100. My horse has arthritis in 2 legs and inflames tissue in one. This seems to keep weight on her because I have troubles with that. I really recommend this diet for non performance horses. Add a powder or pellet or past supplement in and you are set! This diet hasn't failed me or my trainer for 15 years, with MANY different horses. Costs about $100 dollars for three months for 1 horse. Feed with local, timothy, orchard, grass, orchard grass hay, can with alfalfa just take out alfalfa pellets and cubes. Hope this helped!
It is better to soak beet pulp but you don't HAVE to soak it. Maybe if you are feeding a half bucket or more when it's dry but that would make close to 2 full buckets or more if soaked. It does not have to be soaked over night either. Use hot water and it's ready in 1/2 hour or less. Cold water may take an hour.
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As you've probably noted....grain is not one of the items frequently given as something to feed (thank goodness). Forget grain...forever when it comes to feeding your horse. It creates problems. The equine digestive system is not designed for grain..

As one person pointed out, Timothy is rich, but then so is alfalfa and most of the hays (and pellets made from it) that you'll find promoted in the "horsey world" . Horse feed and hay that you'll find in the store is, for the most part, geared to give more energy than most horses will need.

I'm sorry to say that I know of no "feed" that I would recommend which is low enough in nutrition that I'd feel comfortable feeding my easier keeper "regular" servings. There are some really great feeds out there like beet pulp and copra. They are easily digested and good for the horse from a nutritional point of view. However, they are great feeds for hard keepers or horses that are worked hard (needing the calories), but not good for easy keepers UNLESS you are going to really work the horse to burn off the calories.

The best think I can suggest is to look at hays that are good nutritionally, but not seen in the "horse section" anymore . We've grazed on bahaigrass all my life and I still like using it for hay. It's healthy without being too rich which is important with my easy keepers. So if you can find a good moderate hay or even a lower hay (not poor quality now....just lower nutritionally) I'd go with that. You can supplement for any minerals and amino acids, etc... that might be lacking.

Of course you can feed things like beet pulp and copra, but you'll have to do it in very small amounts.

And contrary to what many people believe neither beet pulp or copra has to be soaked and they won't cause colic (I'd have killed a lot of horses if it was the case ). If your horse sucks down it's feed like it's in an eating contest then there can be risk of choke with any dry feed (including beet pulp and copra), but so long as a horse eats like a normal horse , has access to water and is well hydrated I've never had or seen a problem with feeding it dry.
Now, that being said, most beet pulp comes with molasses added. There's no sugar left in the pulp after it's been processed (they really do extract it), but the feed industry likes to add molasses to it (you might be able to find some that doesn't). In that case you'll want to soak it and then drain it to remove as much of the molasses as you can. Copra and beet pulp are my feeds of choice even to my very easy keeper. She just get's significantly less then my other still easy keeper (about 1/3 as much as the 1/2 ration the other gets ). I wouldn't even bother to feed it to them, except that it's the feed I like for long distance riding so I like to keep them use to it for those times (and on those trips they will need a few more calories anyway).

Good luck. You don't have an easy situation with an easy keeper that has already foundered.
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All your horse needs is hay and a pelleted vit/min supplement that covers what hays missing. Keep it simple hes an easy keeper so doesnt need beetpulp or anything else.

Hes already foundered so why risk feeding more then is needed. It would be one thing if he was thin and needed weight. All i ever fed was hay pasture in summer and oats they all thrived on it.

Just this year did i quit the oats because my horse came up with laminits. Had that not happened id still be feeding oats never in all the years i fed it did it cause issues.....That 25 years to be exact.
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