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post #1 of 14 Old 07-29-2015, 11:06 AM Thread Starter
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Looking for some perspective

Hey gang,
So here is the situation I find myself in. I have some background in ridding as does my wife; my daughters have been taking lessons for a few years. I recently moved into a home (hopefully the last, 17th in 20 years) with 3 acres of land with the intention of embracing the whole "mini-farm" deal. (have chickens and pot-belly pigs so far). The intent was always to get a couple of horses once I had the yard set up appropriately.
Embracing the Joe Camp, Jamie Jackson ideas for a "Paddock Paradise" I can easily setup the property for a couple of interesting tracks, much of it wooded.
Here is the small issue I'm looking for your thoughts on. I am interested in trail riding, as is most of the family. (having horse for the sake of their company and pleasure). I think we can easily support a couple of horses for this purpose and just take them out of the backyard into the tree farm property behind us and the ride trails (like we see so many do). However, one of my daughters has fallen in love with jumping and wants to compete. I have no place to set up jumps or a proper training area on my land. So if we bought a jumper we'd have to trailer to classes every week. Plus we'd then have the "athlete" hanging out with the "trail horses". So the latest plan is perhaps to do a partial lease on a jumper at the facility to takes classes and then purchase "trail horses" to keep at home. Does this make any sense? My reading seems to lead me to believe that most people either buy or lease but don't do both. I really can't think of any good way to satisfy all parties except to do it this way. Would appreciate thoughts.
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-29-2015, 11:40 AM
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I think your plan is a reasonable one. Not that the athlete and the trail horses would not do well together but more for convenience of keeping your daughter with her instructor and not be hauling a horse back and forth all the time.
Do be careful with the mini farm plan. It is easy to get overstocked! Three acres is nice but not huge especially if you want to give the horses some room. Having a tree farm there to ride on is a big plus. We have timber land behind us and I am soooooo thankful.

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post #3 of 14 Old 07-29-2015, 09:52 PM
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I agree, the latest plan sounds like a pretty good one. I also agree with dustbunny's word of warning about getting over-ambitious on three acres. It is hard not to do that on my almost-six! I have about two acres of poor pasture and am trying to figure out how to make an "arena" or work areas incorporated into the pasture. Like, add it on and leave the gate open so they can graze it. The biggest problem I see with that is manure accumulation, but some folks gotta do what they gotta do, we are not all blessed with 20 cooperative acres.
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post #4 of 14 Old 07-29-2015, 09:55 PM
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yes. I like your plan. also, depends on how old and how realistic is your daughters crush on jumping. if she is a young teen, these things come and these things go, for the most part, so investing a lot without knowing the solidity of this current 'love' would be foolish, IMO.
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post #5 of 14 Old 07-29-2015, 11:31 PM
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Agree with others. No prob with keeping an 'athlete' with others, but does your daughter really need a special 'athlete' to start with anyway?? Almost all horses can be taught to jump, and many can be good allrounders and good at it. It's only when you start to want a high level performer that you need to get too choosey about it. And with no info on your daughter's age, experience etc, I'd say get your trail horses & let her use him for jumping too.
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post #6 of 14 Old 07-30-2015, 01:25 AM
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I vote with the others. I was a horse crazy girl that took my parents trail horses an trained them to jump. I didn't compete, but I did well enough that when I made it to college the Equestrian Team coach was convinced I'd had lessons. I never had proper facilities or equipment besides saddles, bridles, and mostly willing horses, but always managed to find interesting things to jump and play around with. If you get a couple good all-around type horses - especially one that leans towards the hunter/jumper build/mentality - then there shouldn't be any need to have a separate jumper. Lessons would probably be a good idea for your daughter if she has no riding/jumping experience, but those can be taken on a school horse with the mechanics brought home to practice on your horses.
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post #7 of 14 Old 07-30-2015, 07:09 AM
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Sounds good. My trail horse also does: western pleasure, english pleasure and dressage at the shows. I believe a horse can do more than one discipline and do them well!
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post #8 of 14 Old 07-30-2015, 08:43 PM
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When I was about 13 I started to get really into jumping. My parents bought me a jumper and I took so many lessons and competed and it was really good. Then at around 16 I discovered boys existed and while I never forgot horses I wasn't nearly as focused as I was. This coincided with my last years of high school where I was under a lot of academic pressure and I really wanted was a horse I could ride on the weekends when I had a little time.

I don't think you have to choose one or another. Having a horse at a barn means you're going to have to go back and forth a lot more, and pay more costs. It's up to you if you want to do that.

There are plenty of allrounder horses for sale, ones that compete on the weekends and go for trails during the week. A lot of pony club type horses are like this. I don't think you'd have trouble finding a horse that can be used for both.

And there is no difference between a trail horse and a jumper, for the most part they can be kept in the same conditions with the same feed.

If your daughters just getting into she doesn't need a top jumper, she just needs a reliable horse that can jump decently which most trained english horses can.

As others have said, three acres is very little. Definitely develop a pasture management plan and be wary of overstocking.
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post #9 of 14 Old 07-30-2015, 11:19 PM
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leasing or half lease would probably work for the jumper. If you are leasing from the instructor, and do a full lease make sure the horse is not used for lessons or that any one else would be riding the horse, if Others will be riding the horse for lessons on the day that you are not there, then that would be a partial lease . Get a Written Contract.. make sure the terms are specific to what you want. If you do a full lease, make sure it is stated Your Daughter is the only one to be riding the horse, that the horse wont be used for lessons to other students. You should make sure if you do a lease and it is a partial specify ... number of times per week your daughter can ride the horse (days such as every tues thurs sat . That the lease allows the horse to be removed from the property for shows. Who is responsible for the farrier, vet etc . Specific.
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post #10 of 14 Old 07-31-2015, 10:39 AM
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If you can afford both purchase and lease there isn't an issue. It could be a great way to have access to a well trained horse while your daughter decides just how much she wants to do - whether this is a passing fancy or something she enjoys but may later decide she doesn't necessarily want to compete with. If she sticks with it then perhaps arranging to purchase and trailer if keeping the horse on site becomes to much would be the answer.
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