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post #1 of 15 Old 07-02-2014, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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Lose weight?

Hi! So im starting a school for horses soon, after the summer holidays, and as a present for my birtday, my parents looked for a horse I could take care of and they found one not to far away on the way to my school so i could just drop of after school or so.We went to see the horse a few days ago and I relised that this horse is REALLY big, other that this I really like the horse, it's kind of a school ride horse if to say so, fat, slow, and mostly not intrsted in anything you have to say, just do it that is required if ofcourse it dosn't require anthing else that walking (i dont know the english term :/)
So I'm thinking, how can I get this horse slimmer and more into shape, the owner dosnt know how much the horse have been rided as she just retrived it resently as well, it was ether that or them putting her down. So I'm wondering, how do I start to train the horse to lose weight?
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Horses are like people. It's diet and exercise.

If your folks plan on getting you this horse (bless them), work with a vet and barn manager to review his diet. What is he eating now? How much time is he turned out? They can help you create a plan to transition him to a healthier weight.
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post #3 of 15 Old 07-02-2014, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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Horses are like people. It's diet and exercise.

If your folks plan on getting you this horse (bless them), work with a vet and barn manager to review his diet. What is he eating now? How much time is he turned out? They can help you create a plan to transition him to a healthier weight.

As she is right now she is eating hay, ad thats all, she dosnt need the rest as nobody is riding her right now. Im not so good in english, but what is turned out? if you meen how long they are out grasing or so, they are out all day and taken in at night, then let out in the morning. She is taken out of the pasture if they want to use her for soething, other that that she'll stay there all day :)

Okay, I'll mail the our vet about it and see if he can come out for a visit and as for the brn owner he dosnt know anything about horses, he is more gof a plant grower, he has the farm as a second money income as the barns came with the property he bought xd
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Hi! So im starting a school for horses soon, after the summer holidays, and as a present for my birtday, my parents looked for a horse I could take care of and they found one not to far away on the way to my school so i could just drop of after school or so.We went to see the horse a few days ago and I relised that this horse is REALLY big, other that this I really like the horse, it's kind of a school ride horse if to say so, fat, slow, and mostly not intrsted in anything you have to say, just do it that is required if ofcourse it dosn't require anthing else that walking (i dont know the english term :/)
So I'm thinking, how can I get this horse slimmer and more into shape, the owner dosnt know how much the horse have been rided as she just retrived it resently as well, it was ether that or them putting her down. So I'm wondering, how do I start to train the horse to lose weight?
There's some blanks that need filled in

1. What do you mean you are "--starting a school for horses soon". If you're young enough that you are still in school, do your parents have horse experience and will be giving you sound guidance for this endeavor?

2. "--the owner doesn't know much about the horse as she just retrieved it --" also does not sound too favorable for anybody, including the horse. Does the real (new) owner have horse experience and he/she is only looking for someone to exercise the horse?.

2.1 "--it was either that or them putting her down". There is a lot more to this horse's health than just being over weight, if somebody thought the horse needed to be put down.

While I have my thoughts as to what that might be, they don't matter at this point.

"Helping or schooling" this particular horse is not something a novice (especially a novice youth) should get involved in. You have no idea the basic health condition of this horse and it may very well be in such condition that it can't even be hand walked much less ridden.

It just sounds to me as if a kind person took on a horse that was about to be euthanized and everyone trying to help the horse has no idea the proper way to help it.

If your parents have a lot of solid years of horse experience under their belts, then try to help the horse with guidance and the owner's permission.

Otherwise, stay away from the horse. Horses are not 1,100 pound dogs. You could get hurt and possibly do more harm than good to the horse, whose health issues are either unknown, or you forgot to mention

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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it was ether that or them putting her down.
this "can" say a lot -- could be one of the following or all of the following

1. (and most likely) the seller is adding pressure so you will look past the horses faults and get a "sympathy buy" out of you

2. they looked past the faults and bought the horse, and realized they didn't have the expertise to handle this horse

3. they are incapable or too lazy to care for this horse

4. they are dishonest, they will do anything to get rid of the horse, and they will lie to keep from reducing the price
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post #6 of 15 Old 07-03-2014, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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There's some blanks that need filled in

1. What do you mean you are "--starting a school for horses soon". If you're young enough that you are still in school, do your parents have horse experience and will be giving you sound guidance for this endeavor?

2. "--the owner doesn't know much about the horse as she just retrieved it --" also does not sound too favorable for anybody, including the horse. Does the real (new) owner have horse experience and he/she is only looking for someone to exercise the horse?.

2.1 "--it was either that or them putting her down". There is a lot more to this horse's health than just being over weight, if somebody thought the horse needed to be put down.

While I have my thoughts as to what that might be, they don't matter at this point.

"Helping or schooling" this particular horse is not something a novice (especially a novice youth) should get involved in. You have no idea the basic health condition of this horse and it may very well be in such condition that it can't even be hand walked much less ridden.

It just sounds to me as if a kind person took on a horse that was about to be euthanized and everyone trying to help the horse has no idea the proper way to help it.

If your parents have a lot of solid years of horse experience under their belts, then try to help the horse with guidance and the owner's permission.

Otherwise, stay away from the horse. Horses are not 1,100 pound dogs. You could get hurt and possibly do more harm than good to the horse, whose health issues are either unknown, or you forgot to mention

Hi!, Yes, both me and my parents have had horses before, infact I grew up with them, but our horse had to be put down 2 years ago because of illness. I know horses pretty well but I never experinced an over weight horse before so thats why, and I have ended the obligated school now and is now doing 3 years of learning about horses (pretty much obligatory if you want to work ever in your life, haha)

The owner as it is right now has a horse herself that is in good shape, she have had him for a while, but she cant get time for the other horse as she's working almost all day, she does have horse experience, just not the time for the horse :)

Oh no, the last owners couldn't get rid of her and therfor they said that if nobody could take her they would put her down, not because of any illneses! :o


I have been riding it once, it is not a problem :) It gets tired quiclly thoug so you can only go a few rounds around the padok before she needs to rest.

Ohh, other that obesity there is nothing really wrong with the horse :) She is a happy horse if to say so :)
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post #7 of 15 Old 07-03-2014, 11:34 AM Thread Starter
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this "can" say a lot -- could be one of the following or all of the following

1. (and most likely) the seller is adding pressure so you will look past the horses faults and get a "sympathy buy" out of you

2. they looked past the faults and bought the horse, and realized they didn't have the expertise to handle this horse

3. they are incapable or too lazy to care for this horse

4. they are dishonest, they will do anything to get rid of the horse, and they will lie to keep from reducing the price

Ohh, this was neversaid to me but to the one who has the horse now, right now she's looking for someone who can care for the horse as she dosnt have time to do so :)
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Ok, now that part is answered

Tiring quickly could be due to a few different types of illnesses

The fact the horse is over weight and tires quickly may indicate it has insulin issues and it's also possible the horse foundered somewhere in the past.

Either way, it explains why the original owner may have wanted it gone and felt the burden of guilt lifted off their shoulders by saying if someone didn't take the horse for free, they would put it to sleep Or, on the up side, it could be the horse isn't as bad as the original owner thought and this could be just matter of putting the horse on a diet, before it does get sick

Can the current owner afford to have the vet look at the horse? That would be the first and best place to start. Making false assumptions as to why the horse is lethargic could cause more harm.

Does anybody have any idea how old the horse is?

Are you in the United States? Where you live is going to make a difference on feed recommendations

Limited pasture time or put a grazing muzzle on the horse during daylight hours is a good place to start, regardless of where one lives. Sugar abounds in grass all over the world:)

As far as exercise, if the horse can tolerate some hand walking, that's all I would do and keep her in the soft dirt, grass, fields. A tractor lane would be ok, as long as it's not full of rocks.

If the horse is dealing with some sort of metabolic issues and hasn't foundered too horribly in the past, it is possible to make it's life more comfortable but probably not to the point where it would ever be more useable than a short easy hack or to put a child on its back for a few minutes.

Is it possible to get some clear pictures of the horse from the side and also the hooves? Outside during the day are the best

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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I'd say rides, and lots of groundwork would be good for both bonding with him and helping him loose weight. Also limit his food to as much as he NEEDS not as much as HE CAN eat.
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Ok, now that part is answered

Tiring quickly could be due to a few different types of illnesses

The fact the horse is over weight and tires quickly may indicate it has insulin issues and it's also possible the horse foundered somewhere in the past.

Either way, it explains why the original owner may have wanted it gone and felt the burden of guilt lifted off their shoulders by saying if someone didn't take the horse for free, they would put it to sleep Or, on the up side, it could be the horse isn't as bad as the original owner thought and this could be just matter of putting the horse on a diet, before it does get sick

Can the current owner afford to have the vet look at the horse? That would be the first and best place to start. Making false assumptions as to why the horse is lethargic could cause more harm.

Does anybody have any idea how old the horse is?

Are you in the United States? Where you live is going to make a difference on feed recommendations

Limited pasture time or put a grazing muzzle on the horse during daylight hours is a good place to start, regardless of where one lives. Sugar abounds in grass all over the world:)

As far as exercise, if the horse can tolerate some hand walking, that's all I would do and keep her in the soft dirt, grass, fields. A tractor lane would be ok, as long as it's not full of rocks.

If the horse is dealing with some sort of metabolic issues and hasn't foundered too horribly in the past, it is possible to make it's life more comfortable but probably not to the point where it would ever be more useable than a short easy hack or to put a child on its back for a few minutes.

Is it possible to get some clear pictures of the horse from the side and also the hooves? Outside during the day are the best

The horse is not sick, the vet has looked at it, and it is only over weight :) it's 6 years old
I live in sweden if you know where that is? :)
The horse is not in an place it can graze as it's more in the muddy are of the farm xd She though has unlimited axess to hay there So an idee would be not to give her unlimite of hay?

I dont have any pictures of her as I'e only seen her once so far, but I'll bring a camera next time I come aroun! :)
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