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post #21 of 31 Old 04-28-2015, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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The main suggestion I would give you is, run electricity to the barn and put an outlet at each stall. That way you can plug in heated water buckets, fans, clippers, extra lights if needed, a portable heater, whatever appliance you might need. $300/door for stalls isn't a huge price but depending on what you intend to do for stalls may or may not be good for you.

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I bought all the hardware for about $250/stall and then went to my local lumber store and bought 2 X 6's to finish them out. I probably have less than $400/STALL invested.
Nice stalls! Yes, after talking to a few horse people I've decided not to bother with the used sliding doors. One of the points someone made was that my doors wouldn't match the stall fronts or the rest of the barn. If I'm building a brand new barn, I'd like it to look nice, at least for the first few months :)

And it sounds like I can have something built for little more than what this guy was asking. Also, not sure I want those grills all the way across the front.
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Best thing I ever got (mom got herself one as well as a b-day gift) was the large orange wheel barrel what has two large tires on the front. Lowes is where I got mine. It is big enough to move a bay of hay, I can clean all 5 corrals in one trip and it is super easy to push through deep sand or mud.

Keep in mind no matter how much you plan, once you get the horse, your going to think of something else to buy on a regular basis for quite a while. I always watch the valleyvet and horse.com sales. When the buckets and stuff go on sale I buy about 10 and stock them away, dh sometimes leaves them within reach of his gelding who thinks everything is a cool toy to toss in the air.

You can find other things during the sales like brushes, hoof picks, clippers, feeders, water troughs, hay bags, pallets for your hay to sit on. In some areas it can take a bit to find pallets that don't cost $$. Other things that you can get are saddle rack, bridle rack, shelving in the tack room, saddle blanket rack.

For water trough sizes I usually use large, but when small was the only thing available I made sure I never went smaller than 50 gals per horse. So 4 horses in the pasture, 4 50 gal water troughs were out there.
Was thinking of one of these rather than a wheel barrow: Gorilla Carts 1200 lb. Heavy Duty Poly Dump Cart-GOR866D - The Home Depot

Maybe not the 1200 lb one, but something similar. I saw a 600 lb capacity one that looked just perfect. I figure this will be easier on the back and easier to keep steady, even for my 10 year old. Thoughts?

I can get pallets locally for nothing and thought I would get some to build a composting system away from the barn a bit.

Thanks for the specs on water troughs... that helps.

I guess overall, very little has been mentioned by all you lovely people that I hadn't already thought of so that's somewhat reassuring! I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to planning. And, well, to be truthful, I'll use any excuse I can to go into a horse supplies store.
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Ooo! I like that wagon! If you do go with a wheelbarrow, get the one with TWO front wheels. Even just that makes a huge difference and makes dealing with heavy loads in one far more manageable compared to the single-wheeled type.
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Was thinking of one of these rather than a wheel barrow: Gorilla Carts 1200 lb. Heavy Duty Poly Dump Cart-GOR866D - The Home Depot

Maybe not the 1200 lb one, but something similar. I saw a 600 lb capacity one that looked just perfect. I figure this will be easier on the back and easier to keep steady, even for my 10 year old. Thoughts?
Go for the 1200 lb one, you'll find that larger is better when dealing with horse stuff. I have one that I haul behind my atv, makes mucking out much easier. A total luxury item is a MANURE FORK, regular/mini-tine, basic/motorized, easier cleaning, makes life a lot easier. They're expensive but outlast any other manure fork I've ever bought. I've had 2 for several years now.

Insulate your stock tanks, it will save you a LOT on your electricity bills. I only use heated buckets over night in the barns, the troughs are all solar. Insulated, Solar Horse Watering Tank

I'll try to think of more economic stuff as I'm going through my chores today.

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Go for the 1200 lb one, you'll find that larger is better when dealing with horse stuff. I have one that I haul behind my atv, makes mucking out much easier. A total luxury item is a MANURE FORK, regular/mini-tine, basic/motorized, easier cleaning, makes life a lot easier. They're expensive but outlast any other manure fork I've ever bought. I've had 2 for several years now.

Insulate your stock tanks, it will save you a LOT on your electricity bills. I only use heated buckets over night in the barns, the troughs are all solar. Insulated, Solar Horse Watering Tank

I'll try to think of more economic stuff as I'm going through my chores today.
Insulated water troughs is brilliant! I don't know if I have the skills to add solar power (I will have to study that great how-to very carefully) but I can see how putting in a water heater without insulating the trough would be like throwing money out the window. My horsey neighbors, in fact, just commented to me that heating the water in the pasture was a big expense.

And I do have a trailer with dump function that I can hook up to my ATV. I thought I'd still want a small wheelbarrow or cart that can easily be pulled, even by a child, for daily mucking out. I'll use my ATV to haul the manure away weekly to the compost piles. So do you think that I still need the 1200 lb one? There isn't much difference in cost so going from 600 to 1200 lb is no big deal. I'll have to see how big they are though. Keep in mind we're only planning on getting 2 horses.
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Insulated water troughs is brilliant! I don't know if I have the skills to add solar power (I will have to study that great how-to very carefully) but I can see how putting in a water heater without insulating the trough would be like throwing money out the window. My horsey neighbors, in fact, just commented to me that heating the water in the pasture was a big expense.

And I do have a trailer with dump function that I can hook up to my ATV. I thought I'd still want a small wheelbarrow or cart that can easily be pulled, even by a child, for daily mucking out. I'll use my ATV to haul the manure away weekly to the compost piles. So do you think that I still need the 1200 lb one? There isn't much difference in cost so going from 600 to 1200 lb is no big deal. I'll have to see how big they are though. Keep in mind we're only planning on getting 2 horses.

If you're only getting 2 horses, then just haul out to the compost pile daily. You'll learn quick enough that doing a chore twice is just not on the agenda (daily to a small pile, weekly moving the small pile to the larger compost pile). I have 8-10 horses most of the time. If they are in for a couple of days and make a real mess in the barn, it will take me 3-4 trips out to the manure pile with my fairly large trailer. Just overnight I can do in 1 trip, so for 2 horses I would park the atv and trailer in the barn and have the kids just toss the pickings in that trailer, and you can haul it out to the heap daily or every other, depending on how many flies you get. Depending on the kids' ages, driving the atv can be a good learning experience for them.

I would still get a wheel barrow. The 1200 lb one is only 2 ft X 2 ft X 3.5 ft (25 X 25 X 40 in.) and the 600 is only a little smaller at 20 X 20 x 40 in. and I find that a lot of items that you would haul will be roughly 2 ft wide, so easier to maneuver in the 1200 lb one.

The "solar" heating is not real tricky. I use the black rubbermaid stock tanks, rather than the metal ones, and I put a clear plastic "window" on one side of the trough. Just make sure the sun can hit it but horses can't. Instead of floating heaters, I use the plug heaters that stay on the bottom of the tanks, I just plug them into a strip that I can turn on and off as needed. Down here in OK, unless the windchill gets really bad, I rarely have to turn them on.
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If you're only getting 2 horses, then just haul out to the compost pile daily. You'll learn quick enough that doing a chore twice is just not on the agenda (daily to a small pile, weekly moving the small pile to the larger compost pile). I have 8-10 horses most of the time. If they are in for a couple of days and make a real mess in the barn, it will take me 3-4 trips out to the manure pile with my fairly large trailer. Just overnight I can do in 1 trip, so for 2 horses I would park the atv and trailer in the barn and have the kids just toss the pickings in that trailer, and you can haul it out to the heap daily or every other, depending on how many flies you get. Depending on the kids' ages, driving the atv can be a good learning experience for them.

I would still get a wheel barrow. The 1200 lb one is only 2 ft X 2 ft X 3.5 ft (25 X 25 X 40 in.) and the 600 is only a little smaller at 20 X 20 x 40 in. and I find that a lot of items that you would haul will be roughly 2 ft wide, so easier to maneuver in the 1200 lb one.

The "solar" heating is not real tricky. I use the black rubbermaid stock tanks, rather than the metal ones, and I put a clear plastic "window" on one side of the trough. Just make sure the sun can hit it but horses can't. Instead of floating heaters, I use the plug heaters that stay on the bottom of the tanks, I just plug them into a strip that I can turn on and off as needed. Down here in OK, unless the windchill gets really bad, I rarely have to turn them on.
Yes, I figured I'd just leave the ATV and trailer in the barn on weekdays when I have less time, but we'll see. I take your point about not making two trips when you can make one, but when there is deep snow, there may have to be a temporary pile if I can't make it all the way to the compost bins. I was looking at those utility sleds for that purpose... dh got tracks for his ATV so it goes on snow and could easily pull one of those. Again, we'll see.... those kids of things are probably easier to figure out when you actually have to do them. But it's important to me that we keep flies to a minimum so in the summer, I will likely just haul it away from the barn daily. I should be able to clean two stalls in one trip.

So big cart, got it. Makes sense. I'd like to be able to put a bale of hay into it, for example. The kids are now 10 and 12 and technically too young to be driving the ATV, but mine is quite small and easy to drive (unlike dh's) so I suspect they will be wanting to learn soon. My kids are very quiet and well-behaved so as long as they stay in the yard and take it slow, I wouldn't be against them starting to learn.

Your "solar" watering system might just be one of my summer projects! Heating water with electricity when it's -35 Celcius seems outright insane to me...
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but when there is deep snow, there may have to be a temporary pile if I can't make it all the way to the compost bins........ dh got tracks for his ATV so it goes on snow and could easily pull one of those.
OOOOOH, we never have that kind of snow, never thought about you'd have so much you couldn't make it to the big pile! I see what you're saying about that..... In that case, probably putting it just outside the barn door is the best you can hope for. Snow issues is not my thing, I pray we don't have any each year and we usually don't get 12 inches all winter and never all at once. Our big ugly is wind and wind chills and the occasional ice storm, those make it UGLY around here.

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OOOOOH, we never have that kind of snow, never thought about you'd have so much you couldn't make it to the big pile! I see what you're saying about that..... In that case, probably putting it just outside the barn door is the best you can hope for. Snow issues is not my thing, I pray we don't have any each year and we usually don't get 12 inches all winter and never all at once. Our big ugly is wind and wind chills and the occasional ice storm, those make it UGLY around here.
LOL, we got nearly 18 feet of snow this past winter. Not all at once, mind you, but with very little thawing in between so that it never really went down much. People literally had to dig their cars out from the top down. The snow was taller than me. Taller than some houses. People dug tunnels to get out after some storms. So yes, HUGE amounts of snow here! No worries though, we're used to dealing with it and I've been hanging out at barns all winter to see how everyone manages. As long as the horses have a small area to hang out in over the winter and are let out after each storm, they usually manage to stomp it down pretty good. And dh has a farm tractor with a 6 ft wide snowblower attachment. He will be keeping it in the barn (the tractor bay will be completely walled off of course) so after each storm, he will get it out to clear the driveway and make me a nice wide swath from the barn to the house. If I'm really nice to him, I might even be able to persuade him to clear the paddock once in a while.
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LOL! Nice hubby! I can't even imagine 18 ft of snow over a winter. I lived where it snowed, occasionally up to 3 ft over night, and I had enough of THAT real quick. I'm now of the opinion that if I ever move again I'm going far enough south that they ask, "What's that?" when I show them a picture of snow.
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