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post #31 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 03:56 PM
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I remember Walnut Creek when it was a tiny agricultural community, orchards (including walnuts), hay, and ranching. Fifty years ago. Now it is part of the great sf bay area Human Blight Zone with very little open space left. About 60,000 people. I'm surprised there are horses allowed there.

It's never both hot and humid, we only have one or the other out here. Walnut Creek gets very hot and dry in the summer.
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post #32 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:04 PM
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Yes . it will get worse. so will the flies. Please do not complain , you moved there Next to them. The trend in this state, is people move next to horses, dairies, farms,ranches, ranchettes, Then after a wet winter, or dry hot summer, complain about dirt, flies, animals breeding , yes they do , right out there in the open, geldings airing out things, bugs, and more bugs and smells.
The people with the horses probably had the home built around them.
Please do not pet or feed the horses without the owner being present. Also if the owner puts fly mask on the horses, it does not blind them . I had to actually show a neighbor that the horses vision is not impaired, I took a new fly mask and put it on his face , of course he agreed to do this. Also on the manure, in my area it must be removed once per week. You need to speak with your neighbors if you have legit issues. And you will have mosquitoes , lots of them. Keep your dog fenced in your yard , and your dog will bark like crazy at the horses and keep your fence maintained, and do not spray weed killer near the horses.
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post #33 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:05 PM
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I remember Walnut Creek when it was a tiny agricultural community, orchards (including walnuts), hay, and ranching. Fifty years ago. Now it is part of the great sf bay area Human Blight Zone with very little open space left. About 60,000 people. I'm surprised there are horses allowed there.

It's never both hot and humid, we only have one or the other out here. Walnut Creek gets very hot and dry in the summer.
Sounds a LOT like Apple Valley. It used to be very remote out there, then we got incorporated and it was about 60,000 people. When we sold and left CA, it was over 100,000 easy. Sounds like they're going the same direction, so not surprised that there's one horse property right near downtown. That's how it was in AV. Out the driveway and less than a mile and I was in town with all the restaurants and shops but I could still ride out my back gate and hit open desert in less than a mile, and could ride for days without seeing another human.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/21...!4d-117.192928

Here's where I used to live and what it looks like now. As a teen, I remember that if you stayed on the south side of Hwy 18 you were in "town" and the north side was open desert. Not so much anymore.

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post #34 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:11 PM
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dreamcatcher.. it is awful down south. L.A. area. We went and got my new horse in Simi Valley, oh my gosh, one town runs right into the other, I was shocked to even see horse property. Google Castle rock farms and look at that area. Many of the places we saw were kept very clean. there are pockets of horse property all over this state.
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post #35 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:17 PM
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dreamcatcher.. it is awful down south. L.A. area. We went and got my new horse in Simi Valley, oh my gosh, one town runs right into the other, I was shocked to even see horse property. Google Castle rock farms and look at that area. Many of the places we saw were kept very clean. there are pockets of horse property all over this state.
Yeah, I was very glad to leave and unless DH took a job with Kaiser Permanente again, we won't be coming back. Kaiser is about the only thing that would persuade us.

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post #36 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Zexious !
Yes, i am little taken back by how people are misinterpreting who I am. But it's ok. I am a huge animal lover, we have 4 cats, 2 rabbits, 1 guinea pig, ...you name it.
I love horses, i just dont know them much, that is why i came for help here. I actually went to talk with the horses owner, she was a wonderful lady. I also asked her
if i can pet her horses if they are close to our fence, and she said she is totally fine with it.
Anyways people, have a nice day,
and thank you so much for the helpful advice.
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post #37 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 04:34 PM
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Iva, you should not be taken back by the responses. it is simply that as horse owners, a lot of us have had issues with non horse people.
In my case, the neighbor who reported me to animal control for having my horses blind folded, that they did not have stalls, that they stood out in the rain . there was a rain / shade cover. They rarely stood under it during rain .
i had one neighbor throw rotten fruit and veggies over the fence. I had to explain to please do not, they can be toxic.
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post #38 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 05:03 PM
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ivi22 your post was that you could "already smell them a little" and you didn't want to deal with files. That kind of appears you are already unhappy, so that is why people are defensive. If the horse property owners are not violating any laws or ordinances, then you will just have to get used to it. If you don't like it, probably best to find another pace to live. The smell and flies won't get better and will probably get worse.

Part of deciding where to buy/rent is the neighborhood as much as the house itself. If there are concerns regarding your comfort, it would be best to find another place.
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post #39 of 51 Old 05-12-2016, 05:44 PM
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^I know relatively very little about OP's situation, so that's hard to say but it could be a number of things.
-Maybe there is a large manure pile near their property that could be relocated or donated.
-Maybe there is room on the property to move the horses further away from OP's residence.
-Maybe the horses do live in a small paddock and it needs to be cleaned more frequently.
-Maybe there is no common ground, but at least OP will have done the adult/appropriate thing by discussing her issues with her neighbors in a polite fashion.
Actually Zexious I totally disagree with this. If there is a problem before OP moves there (which already there seems to be) then moving in and waiting two weeks, then discuss common ground? As the neighbour, I would be saying "why did you move here?". Lets assume the neighbours take reasonable care of their horses and property, why should they have to change/hide/move everything for some new townie neighbour? It is unreasonable.

I don't think anyone has been rude in there replies. Strong perhaps, but it is an emotional issue as most have experienced the unreasonable unrealistic expectations of townies in the country.

OP has issues and hasn't moved yet. Best to find another property that does not have livestock as neighbours. No matter how clean the paddocks are kept there will always be flies. Even some grasses attract flies, and if you don't believe that, grow some pennyroyal.
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post #40 of 51 Old 05-13-2016, 01:29 AM
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^That's fine. Differences in opinion are welcome.

She's welcome to discuss before she moves, too. Either way, we're making a lot of presumptions. Frankly, I find it suspicious that two horses are smelly from any reasonable distance. To me, that implies perhaps they aren't taking "reasonable care of their horses and property."
As far as flies, it's not unreasonable to assume it's possible that they won't be an issue. My barn has a central/timed fly spray system and they are virtually unnoticeable. So, with a little elbow grease, it's not unheard of.

As you implied, it's unreasonable to expect your neighbors to adhere to your desires. It's unreasonable to demand "x" amount years experience before moving to the country, "townie" or otherwise xD

The sensitivity of the internet baffles me.
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