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post #41 of 51 Old 05-13-2016, 04:27 AM
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^That's fine. Differences in opinion are welcome.

She's welcome to discuss before she moves, too. Either way, we're making a lot of presumptions. Frankly, I find it suspicious that two horses are smelly from any reasonable distance. To me, that implies perhaps they aren't taking "reasonable care of their horses and property."
As far as flies, it's not unreasonable to assume it's possible that they won't be an issue. My barn has a central/timed fly spray system and they are virtually unnoticeable. So, with a little elbow grease, it's not unheard of.

As you implied, it's unreasonable to expect your neighbors to adhere to your desires. It's unreasonable to demand "x" amount years experience before moving to the country, "townie" or otherwise xD


The nature of a forum is we have to make presumptions. Horses smell of horses. Depends on which way the breeze is as to how far away you can smell them. It is more noticeable to non-horsey people and even more noticeable to horsey people when they have been scrubbed up for the city and then go to the barn/paddock. I think it is fair to assume the neighbour takes reasonable care of their horses because I believe most people love and care for their animals. I still believe neglect and abuse is way in the minority.

I might have got it wrong but I was under the impression these horses were in a paddock not a barn, so no fly spray system. It is my experience that when livestock (any) are close by a house, the fly issue increases. To what degree depends on a lot of factors. (how close, number of animals, how often pasture is cleared [horses] which would only be harrowed for cows and probably nothing at all for sheep/goats/chooks.

Obviously you can not regulate who moves to the country, but it certainly is in everybody's interest to make sure people are truely aware of the reality of it. Too often I have seen farmers(etc) pushed out because an area gets a few townies who complain and the (townie) authorities rule in their favour. It really makes me angry when the person(people) shunted out by the decision lose their livelihood, and no one has to pay them recompense.

I relocated a house one time, and the person who moved it had to hold it at his property for about four weeks (he had other houses there) and his neighbours had been complaining for some time and finally closed him down. Another house-mover had to move my house and the original man lost over $18,000 on my one deal. It is just WRONG. Not a horse issue, but same principle. I have seen it too often.

The country is peaceful, but not silent. Yet people will complain when the bulls roar and sound loud from a distance. Or the wild turkeys gobble noisily as they wander past your window. Have you ever heard a peacock? We have wild ones in some places and townie visitors usually complain they cant sleep because of them. To me, good silage smells sweet (which it should), but I have yet to meet a townie that likes the smell. . .

Not meaning 'townie' as offensive, just that the country isn't what they think it is.
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post #42 of 51 Old 05-13-2016, 06:55 AM
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Zexious, you don't get to move somewhere and impose YOUR values and requirements on the locals. If you're not willing to quietly integrate, then you need to find a place where you'll be content.

If the horses already 'smell', then I'm afraid the OP isn't going to be happy when summer is full blown, and to expect the horse owners to make accommodations is unrealistic. They were there first, and their whole lives shouldn't have to be adjusted because a transplant from the suburbs is unhappy about the smell or flies.

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post #43 of 51 Old 05-13-2016, 11:53 AM
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^I guess I was just mistaken in assuming that adults sometimes make concessions in their own life for the happiness and contentment of those around them. My bad!
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post #44 of 51 Old 05-13-2016, 09:38 PM
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I feel that you are taking it the wrong way zexious.

I try to be reasonable accommodating for people, my main problem is that I am too accommodating. But if I am established in a property I would feel really put-upon if I had to completely change my lifestyle for a new neighbour. If they don't do their homework as to the neighbourhood they are proposing to live in, then the consequences are theirs, and should not be mine.

OP is concerned about smell. The smell is not going to go away no matter how clean the property is kept. It is rural, with rural smells. If people don't like it don't move there. Especially don't move there then complain about it.
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When I was working we lived in a very rural area. The nearest village had two dairy farms in the centre of the village. That meant people had flies all summer. There were the smells, silage, cattle and of course manure when they spread it on the fields. No one complained. The farms were there for years before and it was accepted as part of rural life.

A few years ago the farms were both sold for building. New houses were built on much of the land and incomes moved in - then the complaints started. An elderly couple had always kept a dozen hens and a rooster. He had to go because he crowed in the morning. They complained that farm tractors blocked the single track lanes as they went about their business, this slowed them down when they were trying to get somewhere. They complained when a farmer turned ewes and lambs out in an adjacent field and they were all hollering, lambs to find their mothers and mothers to find their lambs. They complained about the church bells ringing on a Sunday and at evening bell ringing practise once a week.

In an adjacent village the incomes closed down a chicken farm that had been there for years because of the smell.

Urban people have the grand idea that country living is idealic, they do not realise how there are smells, different noises amd a different way of life. The main instigator of the complaints had previously lived just three miles from Heathrow airport, he said he never heard the planes because he just gout use to them. Ditto with country folk not hearing the rooster or doing much more than notice the muck spreading. It is what you are use to.
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One take about urban versus rural happened many years ago locally to where I am.

A farmer sold some land for building. The houses were mainly bought by retired folk moving to the island, one year when it was wet, the farmer had the corn driers going from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. this created a humming noise. People complained and were told that the farmer could run them 24/7 if he so wished.
Complaints about the cattle, complaints about the combines working late evenings, complaints about tractors - so it went on. They really got the hackles of the farmer's neck up. He then, quite legally did things like spread the farm manure in the fields surrounding the estates,.

I hadn't seen the farmer for a while and when I did I asked him how well he was getting in with his neighbours. He laughed and told me that he had just rented out the field for the first Isle of Wight pop festival, back in the late 1960's.

He threatened to make it an annual event if the complaints didn't stop.

They did!
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Growing up the farmer who had the fields around us also raised hogs so spread hog manure. Where we live now the farmer has chickens so we get that smell. Give me hog manure any day! LOL Chicken crap makes your eyes burn and water. Horse manure smells like flowers compared to either one. Cow manure isn't too bad either. The thing is the smells, the flies, getting behind farm machinery is all part of rural living and all of it is much better than city living where you can't see hardly any stars because of all the street lights or the noise of traffic 24/7.

Both ways have their own pluses and minuses and it up to the person to decide what is right for them. I would not move to the city and shoot out street lights or fight to have traffic banned after 8:00 p.m. (about what time folks are all snug in their houses around here and that's actually being pretty liberal with the time lol) so if someone decides to move next to me I would not like it if they started complaining about smells or flies.

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post #48 of 51 Old 05-14-2016, 12:55 PM
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No----you can't ---- go right up to them and pet them.

Nor can you feed them. Do NOT feed them eve one tiny smidgen of a carrot or Apple, unless you want to make an enemy of the horses owner.

1. Most important you do not know if the horse has health issues that keep it from having sugary treats.

2. Some horses become nippy very soon, if they are plied with treats.

3. They are not 1,100 pound dogs. Respect the owner and the horses by staying away from the fence, unless you're mowing. If you're mowing keep the open side of the mower deck away from the horses so nothing flies out toward them.

3.1. Do NOT give them grass clippings. Grass clippings ferment quickly and can cause a horse to colic. Colic is a huge belly ache that can be dangerous if the owner isn't around to give the horse medicine.

4. To answer your initial question. You're going to have flies, no matter what. If the horse owner keeps their place clean, you shouldn't have any more issues than you normally would.

As far as smell -- well this forum is the wrong place to ask that question, lollol. We all think the smell of a horse is better than any perfume on the market, lollol
I do think it's nice that the OP wants too but you are right. My advice would be for the OP to get to know her neighbor (good either way!) and talk to the neighbor about the horses, can she meet them? What is it ok for her to do when they are near the fence on her property? Just say "I love your horses they are beautiful, but I wanted to make sure it was ok for me to do xyz when they are over while I'm mowing the lawn)
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When you can hear your neighbors dog's barking and are face to face with all the wildlife because they don't have room to be wild it sounds like the suburbs to me ;). Not sure what people are going on about as the OP politely asked a genuine question. "Don't let your dog run around" Does she even have a dog? Hopefully the OP got her question answered as this thread has gone so far off track.
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post #50 of 51 Old 05-16-2016, 06:50 PM
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but sometimes, that is also the nature of forums. they can go off on a tangent. :)
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