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post #21 of 71 Old 10-06-2015, 11:16 PM Thread Starter
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Hey OP, just wanted to start off by saying I haven't seen any of your other posts, so I'm not really sure what kind of a bond you've had with your horse up until now (but as a frank reminder, none of us really do, since all we've seen is what you've posted and none of us have seen you interact with your mare firsthand!). First of all, don't be too worried about her "not liking you." Horses aren't emotional like we are and don't necessarily take things personally like humans. You just tried to do something that she didn't want to do, and she took charge of the situation and got her way. I definitely would NOT recommend throwing a blanket over her head...to me, that sounds like the worst way to earn her trust, and chances are, she'll become even worse about worming. Start by haltering her and tying her securely. Give her a few pats, talk to her, and then put the wormer paste in the side of her mouth quickly and with confidence; you can hold her head up to make sure she swallows it. The more self-assured you are, the more she'll sense that. Horses can feel moods, so if you're flitting around her and acting scared, she'll know it and will use it for her advantage.

The first few times I wormed my horse, she threw a little fit. Now, she knows the deal and doesn't try anything on me. You just have to keep at it and not let her get her way. I believe someone else already mentioned that the bonding aspect of owning a horse comes after the respect, and I'd definitely agree with that; I'd also add that she won't respect you unless she trusts you, so don't pull surprises on her...there's no reason to.

Remember that there's nothing wrong with being firm with your horse...it won't necessarily make her like you any less. Just like with kids, you make them behave for theirs and your safety! If she's not de-wormed, it could lead to serious complications later down the road, so buckle down on her! Should you ever feel unsure or lacking in confidence, definitely consult someone with a little more experience who can help you out, but don't be afraid of your horse. If she finds that she can make you nervous, it's difficult to get back that respect. Good luck! :)
Well before I saw ur advice. I went home. Caught her. Tied her to the hitch and post and try to worm her. Tied her head down a bit tighter (normal do that when I normally worm her) she threw a fit. Pushed quite a bit of weight on me. She had me between the hitch in post and her. So I grabbed her lead and forced her to move. Tried to worm her again and threw a fit again. The hitch incpost top pole came loose and out of its brackets. I was also smaking her on the neck when she tried to walk forward into the hitch in post or got to close to me or threw her head up and started trying to run off. (I normally smacked her when she started freaking out when she would walk into the hitch in post she would start pulling away freaking out. Or she's throw her head up and try to get untied) . Then since the hitch in post was no use I moved to a telephone pull we had in the groundm tied her up to that. I rubbed the wormer all over her body including her head. She didn't like the wormer on her head she threw her head up and tried to get away. But I successfully got wormer in her mouth on both sides. Slapped her when she almost walked over me and forced her to back up. I ended on a good note of getting the tube in her mouth. I praised her when she let me put wormer in her mouth. How did I do? I mean other then almost getting myself crushed and the hitch in post coming loose because it wasn't tied down tight enough. So if I did something wrong for future reference and continue training (thinking about continuing getting her used to be getting wormer in her mouth) (but I'll change whatever I need to change) any tips?
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post #22 of 71 Old 10-06-2015, 11:42 PM
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I probably would have bought some of this:

Safe-Guard Equi-Bits2.27g Fenbendazole Pellets - Statelinetack.com

and mixed it with some wheat bran.

Reading thru some other threads, it seems there are plenty of issues that need to be worked by someone who is on the ground, watching you, watching the horse and teaching in person. I've learned a lot on this forum, but not everything is suitable for learning on an Internet forum.

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First, you should not have tied her solid, trying to de worm her.
It is lucky that you did not have a real wreak, like her running around, dragging that rail.
You have now actually taught her to pull back.
You were given some good advise, how to de worm a difficult horse, in way they don't see that syringe coming.
I know you are trying, but you really , really need the help of a good horse person. De worming should not be made traumatic, which will only increase her reaction next time
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First, you should not have tied her solid, trying to de worm her.
It is lucky that you did not have a real wreak, like her running around, dragging that rail.
You have now actually taught her to pull back.
You were given some good advise, how to de worm a difficult horse, in way they don't see that syringe coming.
I know you are trying, but you really , really need the help of a good horse person. De worming should not be made traumatic, which will only increase her reaction next time
I didn't mean to. I was always told if a horse throws their head find a way to pull it down. How do I fix this i don't want her any worse. Cause if I can't worm her she'll be sold. Parents say if I can't handle her she's gone. Then no more horses.
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First, you should not have tied her solid, trying to de worm her.
It is lucky that you did not have a real wreak, like her running around, dragging that rail.
You have now actually taught her to pull back.
You were given some good advise, how to de worm a difficult horse, in way they don't see that syringe coming.
I know you are trying, but you really , really need the help of a good horse person. De worming should not be made traumatic, which will only increase her reaction next time
Can I try the training method u guys said next time
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post #26 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 12:31 AM
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wormer

why did you rub wormer over your horse ?
and hiting your horse is going to make matters worse.
i think you need to look at your situation in handleing this horse .
as i think what has been going on here is a resapie for disaster.
does your mom and dad know anything about horses.
i have seen your strings and it seems like its going to be a train wreak eather your horse will end up suffering or you will end up badley injerd.
i think you need to take a long deep look in to horse management in handleing a horse firstley.
and in horse husbandry makeing sure your horse is looked after properley.
from what i gather here what is going on my pony hates wormers but i have no issues with him he will nod whilst i have it and after a while i let him sniff it and administer it with no fuss at all.
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I'm no expert but when my gelding puts up a fuss, what works for us is me backing him into a corner so he can't run out. He will throw his head around but I know better than to smack him. He's already a little worried. I calmly insist he take the wormrr. Then praise and treat if he wants it. If you make it a big deal he will remember the ordeal and it could build from there.
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I didn't mean to. I was always told if a horse throws their head find a way to pull it down. How do I fix this i don't want her any worse. Cause if I can't worm her she'll be sold. Parents say if I can't handle her she's gone. Then no more horses.
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No....

if a horse throws their head, you cue them to drop it by teaching them first how to do that.

Getting into a pulling match with a horse, you WILL LOSE.

You got lucky, this could have been so much worse

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I'm no expert but when my gelding puts up a fuss, what works for us is me backing him into a corner so he can't run out. He will throw his head around but I know better than to smack him. He's already a little worried. I calmly insist he take the wormrr. Then praise and treat if he wants it. If you make it a big deal he will remember the ordeal and it could build from there.
OP-DO NOT try this! Livelove-this is likely to end in disaster in this case, as the horse will probably rear and maybe even strike. BAD ADVICE.

As has been said-please get some help. I have not seen your other threads, but it is obvious you know very little about how to handle a horse and this one has your number. It is only a matter of time until you and/or the horse get seriously injured. The situation will continue to get worse until you have the help you need. THis is WAY more than about worming. SOOOOO much more.

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post #30 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 08:59 AM
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honestley.

honestley i think the horse needs to be taken and rehomed for the horses sake.
and i dont mean to be harsh or blunt but this looks like abuse towards the horse.
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