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post #41 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 08:33 AM
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I will not smack her. I saw a lady d this a few years back who was helping me handling the gelding I used to own. Normally I hardly ever smack my horse. This is like the first time. Only other time I've smacked her is when she was in the wrong. Like rearing while I was on her back because she didn't wanna leave home. She sure quit rearing after that and haven't had to smack her since.
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I honestly think this may be a bit to much horse for you and you should consider either selling her on or getting serious professional help with her.
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Also I normally never hit my mare unless I feel like she needs it. And clearly I messed up my sapping her by trying to worm her I won't do that again
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post #43 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 08:39 AM
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I will not smack her. I saw a lady d this a few years back who was helping me handling the gelding I used to own. Normally I hardly ever smack my horse. This is like the first time. Only other time I've smacked her is when she was in the wrong. Like rearing while I was on her back because she didn't wanna leave home. She sure quit rearing after that and haven't had to smack her since.
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What are you going to do instead of smack her?
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post #44 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 08:43 AM
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Ok so don't tie down her head and no smacking got this. I was always told never ever let a horse run over top of u and bully u around. Put them in their place. But apparently this lady's advice was bad advice. So, I'll try again tomorrow more calmly, confidentiality and calm. After this I'm gonna use Clinton Anderson method on her earning respect.
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Actually, this is great advice. But the point I am trying to make is that you can't stop a horse from doing this by smacking or pulling. In fact, if a horse is already at the point of running over top of you and bullying you, about all you can do is get out of it's way. You have to fix the behavior before it starts, and I don't think that's what you are understanding. You establish this by gaining their respect, and you can start with that by moving their feet.
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post #45 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 10:31 AM
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Trusty, there is a granular wormer that you can put in the feed. It is in alfalfa pellets, most horses will eat it. If you parents say you must worm your horse or you cannot keep her, then this will worm her. Then you can get professional help. I am getting a picture that you do not have the money to get the help that everyone is advising. You can still get knowledgeable help some where from someone if you look around and really want the help.

I think you are a teenager, every county in the USA has a 4-H program. Through that you can gain knowledge. If there are boarding barns or horse farms close to you, you can ask to work there in exchange for knowledge. If you don't have some kind of knowledge of horse behavior and a VOCABLARY you cannot even understand the advice given here.

You need to learn how to handle your horse with someone standing right there to guide you. It appears the advice given here is not clearly understood by you as it is written and you are not "getting" it. Running out and getting this book or that book will not help until you understand things like "move her feet" and other phrases.

If you really, really want to have a horse, you need to put some time into learning proper horse handling and not get advice from random people you know personally who tell you they know all about horses. It is pretty apparent that they do not as you have been given one bad advice after another.

If I were your parents, I would not want you to have a horse either if you aren't going to learn how to handle her. Way too dangerous.

My question is, why are you so apparently against getting professional help? Continuing the way you have been going will not end well for either you or your horse.
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post #46 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 11:09 AM
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If a horse is running you over, you have the right to stop that train of thought, but honestly it should be stopped even before it gets to that point.

DO NOT TIE THE HEAD DOWN. That is asking for trouble. You work with your horse before hand to ensure that they know the head down cue.

My horse loves getting wormed because I put no emotion behind it, so he has nothing to be wary of.

Do you ride this horse? If so, do you bridle her? If she accepts a bit, she can accept the wormer plunger. Now wormer is gross tasting, but they can deal with it. Just go quickly and be done with it. Make sure to preset the worming tube to the proper dosage based on weight. Quick and done. No muss no fuss.

When you start making a big deal out of it, that's when problems happen.

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post #47 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 11:26 AM
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They also make apple flavored wormer. I'm not going to pretend my horses gobble it down, but they look less disgusted while swallowing it.

If I was training a horse to accept a syringe in the mouth, I'd take an old one and fill it with sugar water, or maybe add some honey to the tip. Let the horse smell it and see if they would lick it. Then work my way to putting it in the side of their mouth.

But from the sounds of things, this horse might decide to take control and eat the syringe, then choke and die. There is a certain level of ground manners needed before you can do much of anything with a horse.

Not all horses are suitable for a beginner. And sometimes, a beginner just needs lessons before trying to own a horse. A weekly lesson isn't much more than the cost of feeding, worming, shoeing (or trimming), vets bills, etc. The parent and grandparent in me says "Sell the horse. Buy some lessons!"
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post #48 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 11:52 AM
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If I was training a horse to accept a syringe in the mouth, I'd take an old one and fill it with sugar water, or maybe add some honey to the tip. Let the horse smell it and see if they would lick it. Then work my way to putting it in the side of their mouth.
Most of my horses have been fine with firm but fair handling for accepting dewormer, but I have had a couple who throw little tissy fits. For these horses I take a large, empty syringe and fill it with apple sauce and let them have a dose every few days for a month or more. They associate tubes with treats and then just get a "bad apple" once in a while. Most horses don't even need this, but I have found it helps a few who are convinced you are poisoning them.

Trusty, I understand you are frustrated and seem to have gotten some conflicting advise in the past. If you can, get in touch with a local 4H or pony club and see if they have an older experienced member or a kind adult who would be willing to come help you out once a week or so to get some respect on your mare. Having a mentor on the ground with you is irreplaceable and will make horses so much more enjoyable.
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post #49 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 12:00 PM
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OP, you need help. Please, please contact a trainer. You have already gotten yourself hurt seriously by this animal (remember those two concussions?) and it's obviously not getting better.
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post #50 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 01:59 PM
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OP, sorry you seem to be getting a lot of contradictory advice! the internet is very opinionated, and as I've found through experience, everybody in the horse world has a different way of doing things, and we all think we're completely right! :) every horse is different and needs to be treated accordingly. as others have suggested, perhaps you can seek out help in person from someone with horse experience who you trust. all of us had to be taught at one point, and you're no different. books and forum posts can only teach you so much. you just have to learn from watching people and then jumping in and doing it yourself. good luck!
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