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post #61 of 71 Old 10-07-2015, 05:26 PM
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I'm going to say one more thing. "Horse people" are not always knowledgeable. Many years ago I was given advice from a man who was a big time roper in Texas. He told me that to get my horse to stop, I needed to wrap the bit with a piece of barbed wire. Really. He told me that. He said that was why his horses stopped on a dime. Even at my very young and inexperienced level, I knew that was wrong, but he had been riding and roping for YEARS. Many people thought he was knowledgeable and successful. I guess he knew how to torture horses and get them to stop but he was in NO WAY a professional trainer.

Just because people have horses and work with horses, does not mean they really know anything. I hope your helper is a real professional who has a proper RESUME and BACKGROUND of successful training and that you can recognize a person who knows proper training and horsemanship from someone who does not. Good luck.
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I'm going to say one more thing. "Horse people" are not always knowledgeable. Many years ago I was given advice from a man who was a big time roper in Texas. He told me that to get my horse to stop, I needed to wrap the bit with a piece of barbed wire. Really. He told me that. He said that was why his horses stopped on a dime. Even at my very young and inexperienced level, I knew that was wrong, but he had been riding and roping for YEARS. Many people thought he was knowledgeable and successful. I guess he knew how to torture horses and get them to stop but he was in NO WAY a professional trainer.

Just because people have horses and work with horses, does not mean they really know anything. I hope your helper is a real professional who has a proper RESUME and BACKGROUND of successful training and that you can recognize a person who knows proper training and horsemanship from someone who does not. Good luck.
Thx 4 advice and she does
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post #63 of 71 Old 10-10-2015, 05:26 PM
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Trusty Rusty, I've been a horse owner for 29 years. A couple of years ago, I bought myself a 4 year old (what was I thinking!). After several months of riding him, I realized I needed the help of a trainer (yes, after all these years!). I took a few lessons and it truly paid off. I agree with the others... find yourself someone knowledgeable / a trainer to help you. Someone else might see something you can't because your emotions are in the way.
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post #64 of 71 Old 10-10-2015, 06:08 PM
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Well before I saw ur advice. I went home. Caught her. Tied her to the hitch and post and try to worm her. Tied her head down a bit tighter (normal do that when I normally worm her) she threw a fit. Pushed quite a bit of weight on me. She had me between the hitch in post and her. So I grabbed her lead and forced her to move. Tried to worm her again and threw a fit again. The hitch incpost top pole came loose and out of its brackets. I was also smaking her on the neck when she tried to walk forward into the hitch in post or got to close to me or threw her head up and started trying to run off. (I normally smacked her when she started freaking out when she would walk into the hitch in post she would start pulling away freaking out. Or she's throw her head up and try to get untied) . Then since the hitch in post was no use I moved to a telephone pull we had in the groundm tied her up to that. I rubbed the wormer all over her body including her head. She didn't like the wormer on her head she threw her head up and tried to get away. But I successfully got wormer in her mouth on both sides. Slapped her when she almost walked over me and forced her to back up. I ended on a good note of getting the tube in her mouth. I praised her when she let me put wormer in her mouth. How did I do? I mean other then almost getting myself crushed and the hitch in post coming loose because it wasn't tied down tight enough. So if I did something wrong for future reference and continue training (thinking about continuing getting her used to be getting wormer in her mouth) (but I'll change whatever I need to change) any tips?
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While I am all for doing things right and not backing down...

Was it really worth the fight there? You are lucky you didn't get hurt.

There were easier ways to make the same point.

I am concerned as this horse has hurt you several times before. Maybe selling her would be for the best.

I'm sure there's a local stable you can volunteer at or something to get your horse fix.

michaelvanessa, I'm really not worried about the HORSE here... I think your posts are a little rude.
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post #65 of 71 Old 10-11-2015, 05:56 PM
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a little rude.

ok a little rude i am makeing the point.
1 the op has been around horses for 3 years.

2 knolage gaps in basic horse management.

3 ties a horse head down as to worm horse horse evades and snaps pulls rail off pertrudeing nails screws can punture skin or hoof with dia cosequences.

4 op decides to use a wooden phone electric pole to tie horse to problem is emovable object some thing has to give if the halter breaks horse rears up falls over and smashes head and ends up with pole eveil.

5 op has had sevreal horses.

6 op contantley asks for help to ride after advice on being injerd falling off on crutches and concusion advice given by the greater good of the horse forum.

7 in an honest opinion would you have this person work in a barn and tend to your horse.
my answer to that is a big NO there is to many alarm bells ringing here.

my best advice to you is to read all the posts befor you jump to conclusions.

im sorry if thats a bitter pill for you to swollow but in this situation some thing is going to give trust me it all ways does.

i dont fear for the op but for the horse as its defenceless.

as for me being rude well im intitled to my opinion on the situation.
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post #66 of 71 Old 10-11-2015, 06:06 PM
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not worred about the horse.

woah hold on there.

the horse is a big part of this.

ok no horse no problem so what says there is no problem with this horse its caused untold injerys to the op.

what is the op doing with the horse to make the horse do this.

i think you need to sit and have a long think about this one.

i have no issues with my horses and im proud i have a partnersip with them and that we both enjoy life as it should be as to the above there is a lot of conflict and frition between them.

i rest my case.
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post #67 of 71 Old 10-11-2015, 07:22 PM
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Honestly... If I were the OPs age and I was getting injured constantly my parents would have kicked that horse to the curb asap but that's just my parents and they aren't horse people.

OP you either need to find somewhere you could possibly get experienced help and maybe work off lessons or something OR sell the mare and wait until you're older and have your own money and job to get another horse.
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post #68 of 71 Old 10-16-2015, 01:52 AM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned in previous posts (I didn't read them all), but one thing you can do between now and the next time you deworm is take an old deworming syringe, clean it thoroughly and then fill it with something really tasty like applesauce and "deworm" your horse with the treat many, many times.

It sounds like you could really use some hands on help with basic everyday handling of this horse in general.
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post #69 of 71 Old 10-16-2015, 10:32 PM
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woah hold on there.

the horse is a big part of this.

ok no horse no problem so what says there is no problem with this horse its caused untold injerys to the op.

what is the op doing with the horse to make the horse do this.

i think you need to sit and have a long think about this one.

i have no issues with my horses and im proud i have a partnersip with them and that we both enjoy life as it should be as to the above there is a lot of conflict and frition between them.

i rest my case.
Uh.... the horse isn't the one getting injured nor is she the one having issues..

We have all made mistakes. I see no reason to call someone an abuser because they have made some, especially when the horse is just FINE.

You can be concerned and I agree the situation is concerning, solely because the OP needs yet has no guidance. That doesn't mean the HORSE is abused... it's the OP that gets hurt but is being called out here, doesn't seem right to me.

Man if every horse in a less than professional level home was "abused". Hey I've known horses to get injured at professional level places...whoops.

Talk about jumping to conclusions.
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post #70 of 71 Old 10-17-2015, 04:53 AM
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horse sence no horse sence.

your quite right there on that one.

ok firstley i was bording at a so called rideing centre lol it was not funny for thease 2 horses.

first horse was a fill foal head girl mucks out filly,
the filly was bedded on straw and thay left a fork in the stable foal got stabed in the hind leg head girl did not own up and the foal ended up with tendonitus.
and was put to sleep.

the second one gets better.

the owner has dressage horses and this one is called ben he is a liverchestnut aprox in hight 15 2 hh.
well off thay drive as thay got some turn out about 4 miles away from the barn so thay take the 4x4 and in stead of parking it on the road decide to park it in the field.

so the choice was made one of the girls to ride back as the farm track is allmost a straight lineback to the barn.

whilst the other one drives the long way round to the barn.

but what unfolds is beyond comprehention it looks like ben is cold backed or there could have been another factor present i dont know.

thay saddled ben up he reared up fell over and smashed his head on the 4x4 he was struggling to get up and hit his head about 2-3 more times.

thay got ben back and said the horse is haveing fits and the vet came out trying to diagnose why.

on his inspection found the horses eye dammaged so he was blind in one eye.

were he amashed his head smashed his pole and had to have bone splinters removed he was fiting as to be in deep shock.

the head girl and the other girl was fired on the spot and the good news ben recoverd and still compeated in dressage with one eye.

i have seen my faire share to.

oh i for got to mention the op has got head trauma and has a brain bleed and doctors have said leave it for a few weeks oh well dead op.

all i can say look around have a good read i think its under rider well being .

again the great people of this forum have advised and screamed untill the cows come home in giveing advice.

ill let you in a secret thats why im bald i keep pulling my hair out in situations like this.

vanessa my deceased partner i sat and worked with her in her british horse society exhams and rideing and road safety i provided all the books that were for the cillibuses and she passed stable manageement and stages 1-2 i have all the books here.

i will tell you this i dont know everything and ill never will in horses.

i have taught my own horses and broke my own horses in.

i have decided to take up ridden equitation and currentley doing sidesaddle and after 4 lessons got graded as a 1-2 as i compleated a sidesaddle equatation test.

https://youtu.be/1hi5z8ok6R8

ok this is my horse a 16 hh clydesdale maxicob so relaxed at home standing quietley with tricky im on my own in this small clip so i think it lasts about 3-4 minuits enjoy.
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