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post #61 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 01:06 AM Thread Starter
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I know in the photo he is eating the hay but I gave him 2 chunks from the bale and he left probably half of it. He's done the same now for the last 2 days. Do I need to remove the hay that he's not eaten each day and just keep replacing with new hay? Today I'll give him just one chunk of hay and if he doesn't eat all that then maybe it's not good quality or as I said before, maybe it's because in his new field, there's loads of grass?

I work full time during the summer months, have 2 kids plus a dog to walk so because of this and the heat, I have been riding him for about 45 minutes every couple of days and wherever I go there are hills. To be honest he's always keen to go out but as the ground is fairly rocky, I keep it slow and only have a couple of places where I feel I can safely trot and just 1 place where he can canter for about 30 seconds. The last month though, even with his weight loss, I've had to hold him back as he's been raring to go!

From the end of next month I'll work only part time so can ride him pretty much every day and also be able to take him down to some of the beaches (which I'm not allowed to whilst tourists are there) so hopefully he'll then start building up more muscle.
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post #62 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 02:02 AM
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Yes avrajack, he's looking better. Hard to tell from just one pic, (and perhaps the earlier 'too thin' pic also made him look worse than he was), but he doesn't look overly underweight now, could stand to gain a bit more tho.

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Yes, your boy is too thin. He's 18, and that means it's so important to keep weight ON, not Off. They get harder to keep fat the more they age.
Hi, Have to comment... 18yo is not old, and it is important to have them a *healthy* weight, not overweight, at any age. Keeping a horse in 'good condition' long term without periods to use up the fat stores is a factor in IR & other metabolic issues. If a horse is healthy & fed a healthy diet(ie not sweet feed, etc), they shouldn't become 'hard keepers' as they age generally either.
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post #63 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 01:25 PM
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He's looking bunches better. Better enough that when you talk to the owner, I would not take him back if he was mine. Tell them the truth, if necessary show them the pics you first showed us and/or let them read this thread to see where you have really tried to get good info on how to feed him. If I could see my horse who formerly was not terribly friendly, following someone around, had evidence that he was being properly fed and cared for, in this current condition I would not feel the need to take him back.

As for the hay.........well, I have a friend down in Belize and she showed me what is absolutely top notch forage down there and I thought I'd die and my horses would starve on it. Far from it. They're fat and sassy and love the stuff. So, just because this is yellow doesn't mean it isn't good fodder it just means we're not used to looking at it.

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post #64 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 01:29 PM
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I know in the photo he is eating the hay but I gave him 2 chunks from the bale and he left probably half of it. He's done the same now for the last 2 days. Do I need to remove the hay that he's not eaten each day and just keep replacing with new hay? Today I'll give him just one chunk of hay and if he doesn't eat all that then maybe it's not good quality or as I said before, maybe it's because in his new field, there's loads of grass?
I'd cut him back to 1 chunk per feeding and see if he cleans it up. I'd reduce the hay until he's cleaning it up or very close to cleaning it up. With all the new grass in his pasture he may not need as much hay. I'd leave what's on the ground there, unless he pees or poos in it, and let him clean it up and not just keep replacing it, that's too expensive. When you hit the happy balance where he is cleaning up his hay in a couple of hours, as long as he's also got good grazing, then he should keep gaining weight.

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post #65 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 10:17 PM
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Agree, the fact that he's not eating it well is making me think it's about as appetizing as it looks. But if he has nice grass he won't be eating as much of pretty any hay.

Make sure the grass is good quality then just give him as much hay as he will eat. If that's only one "chunk" (flake) than so be it.
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post #66 of 98 Old 10-11-2014, 11:08 PM
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I think he looks so much better in the most recent picture- both his weight and his feet. I can understand how hard it is when you don't have access to the best care or feed, so I know your struggles! You are definitely on the right path!
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post #67 of 98 Old 10-12-2014, 08:30 PM
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Good progress! Keep it up :)
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post #68 of 98 Old 10-13-2014, 11:09 AM
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Looking better, way to go!!! keep up the good work!
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post #69 of 98 Old 10-14-2014, 11:00 AM
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I had my horse's fecal egg count checked and it was off the charts. So this is advice from my vet (located in France, so the medications will probably be available by special order in any pharmacy in the EU):

1. Praziquantel (Eqvalan Duo) : 1 dose
2. 10 days after : Panacur Equine Guard : give a DOUBLE dose every day for 5 days. For a 500kg horse, that's 50ML per day for 5 days.
3. 15 days after : ivermectine (Eraquell) 1 dose

Add 20g of aspirin if you see signs of thrombosis.

Then he said to worm 3-4 times a year after on this schedule:

Winter: after the first frost, worm against strongyles and tapeworms (using praziquantel) et bot flies (using Endectocide i.e., ivermectine or moxidectine). = EQUIMAX

Spring: worm against strongyles, with Benzimidazolés (Fenbendazole "Panacur") or endectocide (ivermectine "Eraquell")

Summer : During this period, worms are everywhere in the environment. We suggest an Eqvalan Duo product.

Fall: worm against strongyles (especially larvae) using Fenbendazole ("Panacur Equine Guard" used over 5 jours). If not, use an Ivermectine product.
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post #70 of 98 Old 10-14-2014, 11:31 AM
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I am one of those who thinks he is overweight in the first pic, I can't believe how many people think that he looks at a good weight there. To me his ideal weight lies between the first and second pics.

You have been given lots of advice OP, hope that you can get him back to looking great.
I get where you're coming from, as the first photo is not a great photo and its hard to depict how healthy his weight actually is there.
These are two pictures of my guy taken the same day! The first he looks like a chunky monkey and the second he looks much better, but it just goes to show how hard it is to really judge the weight of a horse from certain pictures.





PS: Pardon my oh so glorious looks in the first picture!
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