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post #31 of 51 Old 11-19-2014, 12:05 PM
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Classic thoroughbred symptoms that I can relate to from my past... and Regula's comments really hit the nail on the head for me.

A horse can be good at first because it is reacting to the riding from a previous rider. So it can take a week or so for it to start acting up to your riding or handling habits.

Take a deep breath... and keep moving forward... She's certainly testing you. Following what Regula did is pretty much what I did. Also, consider turning the horse loose in an enclosed arena before you lunge to get some of the kinks out, or make sure she is turned out for the day and not stall bound. Make sure she's paying attention to you when you lunge, not just running wildly.

Just not sure you should give up yet...the rewards I had for sticking with it were amazing.
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thanks for everyones replies again!!!:)

the instructor today was amazing!

She really put things in perspective for me. She thinks my horse is fine and that its just me! we're going completely back to basics! and she says its not a short term fix it can take a year but I'm willing to put the effort in.

Literally today for an hour we spent the whole time walking and holding and changing reins. She says its all about getting her to listen to my aids better and me carrying them out a lot better.

Ive always been taught that if the horse doesn't listen to your legs after 2 nudges then to give her a tap and yeah she does go forward for a few strides but then gets lazier again. Her approach is a lot different! Its much less 'forceful' and after the first few minutes my horse was listening so much better to me already!

it was amazing!
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post #33 of 51 Old 11-19-2014, 04:34 PM
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I hope you can work through this - you'd already seen that your pony rode well for someone that had the experience to know how to ride her correctly. If she was used in a riding school she can't be untrained and awful - but I expect she was used for the more advanced riders and not nervous people or beginners
I also think you need to forget the TB thing - she isn't a TB she's a part bred and the pony blood in her makes a big difference in terms of temperament.
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I hope you can work through this - you'd already seen that your pony rode well for someone that had the experience to know how to ride her correctly. If she was used in a riding school she can't be untrained and awful - but I expect she was used for the more advanced riders and not nervous people or beginners
I also think you need to forget the TB thing - she isn't a TB she's a part bred and the pony blood in her makes a big difference in terms of temperament.
yeah i think your right!

hopefully things will go a lot better from now!:)
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post #35 of 51 Old 11-19-2014, 11:48 PM
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Now after using parellis methods she can ride her in a field bareback with just a head collar! that just amazes me!
TBH, I'm a little biased *against* 'Parelli Instructors' & programs, although I agree mostly with his general principles. I'm also sure there are some very good instructors out there too. Just 'Don't Drink the CoolAid' as they say. Don't accept everything hook, line & sinker. As a novice to horse training many moons ago(had been owning & riding many years but didn't 'get' that had much to do with training), I saw that magician Parelli, riding Without A Bit(!!!) and he claimed he could teach people how to have 'the Knack'(!!!) I saw a few 'miraculous' egs & was.... smitten! I think too many people with little knowledge & experience 'fall in' that way. There is a LOT of good stuff to learn, from Parelli & others, especially for beginners I reckon, but there is, IME, a bit of 'rubbish' in everything too, & depends how it's understood too. So just... keep your thinking cap on & analyse what's going on, don't just accept blindly.
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post #36 of 51 Old 11-20-2014, 05:32 AM
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I also think you need to forget the TB thing - she isn't a TB she's a part bred and the pony blood in her makes a big difference in terms of temperament.
I wish I could agree with that, but with one exception, the horses I've had exposure to (so based on my personal experience), when there's TB in the bloodlines....it often shines through.

I spend some time upon a TBxClydesdale mare every now and then. She has a much more stocky build (albeit far from a straight draft build) vs a dainty little TB, but I'll tell you, she's hot under the collar a good portion of the time - the TB in her is very VERY evident.

Perhaps that's the exception vs the rule, but again, in my experiences, the opposite is true.

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I have a very calm, level headed full blooded Thoroughbred. And (gasp!) he's an ex racer. ;)

Why must we always blame the TB blood? If the OP hadn't mentioned the TB blood, we'd be focusing mainly on training and rider level. ;)
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I don't think any of us of necessarily blamed the TB blood 100%, but I think it would be rather na´ve to not keep it in mind in the equation. ;)
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thanks for everyones replies again!!!:)

the instructor today was amazing!

She really put things in perspective for me. She thinks my horse is fine and that its just me! we're going completely back to basics! and she says its not a short term fix it can take a year but I'm willing to put the effort in.

Literally today for an hour we spent the whole time walking and holding and changing reins. She says its all about getting her to listen to my aids better and me carrying them out a lot better.

Ive always been taught that if the horse doesn't listen to your legs after 2 nudges then to give her a tap and yeah she does go forward for a few strides but then gets lazier again. Her approach is a lot different! Its much less 'forceful' and after the first few minutes my horse was listening so much better to me already!

it was amazing!
Glad to hear that things are working out! I went back and read my first post, it was a little harsh. I felt bad about that.

As I said, I am an advocate of people sticking with it if they really love the horse. I didn't really get that feeling from you in your first few posts, you seemed like you just wanted to be done with her, so I was saying to move on before it got worse for both of you. But its awesome that you are willing to put the work in!

As for parelli, many conflicting opinions on him, I personally don't follow his training program, but I'm of the opinion that whatever works for you, great!

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This is going off track a bit so I apologize to the OP - While some TB's can be 'hot' its not the case with them all and my worry with the OP was that she had a fixation in her mind to start with about the TB blood in this pony and it was affecting her attitude towards it. So instead of thinking 'my pony is a TB - why not focus on my pony is a Connemara instead and concentrate on the positives of that breed.
You can't allow yourself to be intimidated by a horse/pony because of its breeding
I've had pure welshies that were way 'hotter' than any TB I've ever owned!!!
This pony the OP has is probably super smart, has fairly high energy levels and stamina & is more responsive and forward going than the ponies she's been used too - she just needs to learn how to ride it
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