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post #21 of 129 Old 11-06-2014, 07:47 PM
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What you were sold are connectors, which are not appropriate to show in and really should not be used at all. Any trainer suggesting these would really worry me. There are plenty of other bits out there, that are designed to be used with one rein, and to give curb pressure. I would be running the other way with daughter in tow.
For your reference: the pelham bit is designed to be used with two reins and with a skilled/experienced rider. The upper rein is your primary and the lower for curb pressure as needed.

For reference: if you knew anything about Show Jumping you would know that converters (you call them connectors) are perfectly appropriate in the show ring, and trainers - without worry - suggest them often for a variety of reasons. There is no reason to tell the OP to run the other way.
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updown: Here is the biggest red flag of the picture: What trainer : "suggests" , that a child or ammy rider "try" anything. If they were a real trainer, they would go into their tack room, pull out the piece of gear, put it on the animal, and "try" it themselves. Then AFTER the trainer feels the new tool is appropriate, they then ''train" the person how to use it.
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the lip strap is used to stop the curb chain from twisting which is why the English curb chain has an extra loose link For the lip l,strap to pass through.

It seems to be becoming obsolete.

I am always shocked to see how many top dressage riders ride not only without a lip strap on the double bridles but also that the running head that the Bridoon (snaffle) fits to is done up on the left when it should be on the right to balance the buckle of the noseband.

Then again I am getting older and could be considered old fashioned!

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updown: Here is the biggest red flag of the picture: What trainer : "suggests" , that a child or ammy rider "try" anything. If they were a real trainer, they would go into their tack room, pull out the piece of gear, put it on the animal, and "try" it themselves. Then AFTER the trainer feels the new tool is appropriate, they then ''train" the person how to use it.
Perhaps the trainer HAS used the bit with the horse before, and knows the horse will respond, and uses the word "try" to make the student a part of the process, setting the student up for working with other horses, on her own, in the future. I wouldn't read too much into it, particularly since they are in France. The lessons may not even be given in English for all we know.

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updown: Here is the biggest red flag of the picture: What trainer : "suggests" , that a child or ammy rider "try" anything. If they were a real trainer, they would go into their tack room, pull out the piece of gear, put it on the animal, and "try" it themselves. Then AFTER the trainer feels the new tool is appropriate, they then ''train" the person how to use it.
Not always possible. The trainer might be large and the horse a 12.2 pony.
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Fox then they need a new trainer as the one they have can not provide proper service. The quality hunter and jumper barns I deal with all have a staff rider for such issues. Bits are training tools and misuse creates a bigger problem then you started with.
As far as "maybe" the trainer tried it, well if they had then they would have explained how to properly use it and this post would not be here
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...As far as "maybe" the trainer tried it, well if they had then they would have explained how to properly use it and this post would not be here
Actually, ecasey has already explained:
"Where I live, it's late at night. My trainer was in the hospital all day. Because I don't want to bother her with something that could wait until tomorrow, I came here instead...Could I have waited until tomorrow and gone to see her? Yes. But I wanted to put the rig together tonight while I had some free time at home." - post #8
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bsms, that doesnt explain anything. It just states that like I said , the person doesnt know anything about the bit or how it works.
The statement " my trainer was in the hospital all day", somehow doesnt surprise me with this whole thing.
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updown: Here is the biggest red flag of the picture: What trainer : "suggests" , that a child or ammy rider "try" anything. If they were a real trainer, they would go into their tack room, pull out the piece of gear, put it on the animal, and "try" it themselves. Then AFTER the trainer feels the new tool is appropriate, they then ''train" the person how to use it.
You assume a lot, in the little the OP has told us, since you have no idea what prep the trainer did or didn't do. You also tell us often in different thread what you think a "real" trainer or professional should do. I've worked with professionals from around the world, some even in France. Reality: not every professional does it your way.

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The quality hunter and jumper barns I deal with all have a staff rider for such issues.
So you claim to work with quality jumper barns and still said in your first post that converters are not appropriate for the show ring. Correct information is important if you are going to post.
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