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post #1 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 05:51 PM Thread Starter
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Hello,I have a new horse ...well hes not new he is a retired race horse and he is the best thing I have ever got!
I have a couple questions.
I have a friend who has a big barn where I keep CC....okay,before I even got CC I was doing barn work such as mucking stalls,feeding and bringing in the horses in the mornings and feeding and letting out at night for exchange in free lessons and such.I have not got anywhere close to the lessons I should have from the amount of work I have done since I started.Now that I have my own horse I am still down there every single morning feeding and bringing in and 4 nights a week feeding and turning out and cleaning stalls every single day.I have been offered no discount on the board what so ever...really have not received any lessons that lasted more than 30 minutes and they are few and far between.When I get texts from her asking if im coming down sometimes I say no I have things to do and well that is not received well from her.I feel I am not being compensated nearly enough and to make it worse we just got a new boarder he is a Paint and well...hes crazy and he has already pushed me out of stall and just about broke my toe doing it!My question is what is a reasonable exchange between the work I do verses the board and all the other things I doid not need or want but where charged for them...HELP!!!!!!
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When I worked for my friend, I cleaned 8-10 stalls every day (except Sunday), fed in the evenings (and sometimes in the mornings if they needed me to), lunged/groomed/bathed 3-5 horses per day (including my own), turned out and brought in all the horses on the property (anywhere from 6 to 12, depending on how many boarders we had and such), and did any other work around the barn that they needed me to. In exchange for this, I not only gained the invaluable experience I have now, but my friend also covered my stall fee ($125 per month) for the barn we boarded at and paid for my farrier visits ($40 every six weeks or so). So, all I had to do was pay for feed and gas to get out to the barn (granted, hay was cheaper at that time, so for under $100 a month, I owned my own horse). I didn't really get any ridden lessons, but I did learn A LOT about handling horses in general (lunging, ground work, bathing, etc).

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post #3 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for your reply!Currently board is 250 a month and I have been doing alot of work at this barn but she has yet to say anything about giving me a break on board...there are 9 horses including my own that I have been taking care of on a daily basis!
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post #4 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:28 PM
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Hi! I'm new to horses as well, and thinking about getting my first one. I don't have much experience in the horse world but one thing that I have learned is that mixing business and friendship is almost always a bad idea.

What is your arrangement with this friend? Is there just a verbal agreement? Do you feel comfortable talking with her about this? It seems to me that you should be able to set a value on the work that you do, per hour, and ask your friend to give you that much off of your lessons and board. Keep honest track of your hours and, if she doesn't take well to it, try to find another barn that needs help and cut the same deal there.
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post #5 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Elle,yes it was a verbal agreement and yes what you just said makes perfect sense to me!!!
The arrangement at first before I got CC was I help out some around barn here and there and I only had one designated day(sunday)where it was my day to feed and bring in the horses...I have only received a few lessons if thats what you even want to call them and a couple trail rides..now that I have CC I have been there everyday because the barn is only 2 miles from my house...so after I drop my daughter off at school I go down...muck stalls,fill water buckets,feed and bring in the horses...everyday!I have not been offered anything off of board!
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post #6 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:39 PM
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You're getting no benefit out of this and it's not great to continue.

Go have a face to face chat and tell them that you liked helping out to get some experience but now you feel you work all the time with no benefit and that you're not going to continue. If you're open to doing it still say you'd be willing to do it for a discount on your board and then work out how many hours equal what discount. You don't want the exchange of work for discount to be much less than minimum wage.
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post #7 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:42 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Saskia,I will talk with her on monday...I feel like I am being taken advantage of!
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post #8 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:49 PM
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Brace yourself for it to not go well. Usually when people get used to freebies, they don't like it when people point out the inequity. I do think you should talk to her but I'd also have a plan for where you're going to take CC if things don't work out.
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post #9 of 19 Old 10-09-2015, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
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Elle,I agree 100%!
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Elle,yes it was a verbal agreement and yes what you just said makes perfect sense to me!!!
The arrangement at first before I got CC was I help out some around barn here and there and I only had one designated day(sunday)where it was my day to feed and bring in the horses...I have only received a few lessons if thats what you even want to call them and a couple trail rides..now that I have CC I have been there everyday because the barn is only 2 miles from my house...so after I drop my daughter off at school I go down...muck stalls,fill water buckets,feed and bring in the horses...everyday!I have not been offered anything off of board!
So, did she ask you to do those things everyday or are you just doing them?? It sounds to me that you guys agreed that Sunday was your day, and that now that you have gotten CC you are there everyday and just decided to do these things and expect some kind of "payment" for your services that she never asked or expected you to do.
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