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post #11 of 14 Old 04-29-2014, 02:21 AM
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I am finicially capable of buying a horse and the expenses that come along with one. I am pretty positive that its obvious the responsibility that comes along with one? I am not a child so I am aware of the dangers. I have grown up on a farm sooo I am not oblivious to that. So I am well aware of the work and effort put in. I didnt grow up in New York City. I have not personally owned a horse but I live in a Horse town. My neighbor has had horses his entire life breading them, and showing them but I would like to approach the situation with some knowledge alond side his experience. I am aware that he is capable of taking this on his own but he is allowing me the opportunity to be apart of it. So I joined this forum in the hopes of "well hey welcome to the equine world, these are somethings you need to know" not "im sorry but you need experience before you can get experience". I was pretty positive that most horse lovers get excited to invite others and share their excitement? I mean all the ladies in my area have been so far, being that everyone does it. So thanks for the advise I guess?
I apologize, I did not mean to offend. And I'm sorry I forgot the pleasantries, I'm one of those straight to the point dive right in kind of people. So it's a bit belated, but welcome to the forum!

If you reread my post, you will notice that I was not assuming you were unable to afford a horse, I was asking if you were. I was also pointing out the amount of physical and financial effort it takes to keep one, to try and help prepare you and make you think about it. Some people (and I'm not saying you are one of them) watch a Flicka movie and immediately have their heart set on a horse. They have no idea that horses are one of the most expensive and time consuming sports or hobbies you can be involved in.

As others have said, you have not provided information in your background as a rider. Horse keeping and horse riding are two very different things. Let me tell you a short real life story that actually happened.

My mother's horse was not getting enough exercise, and I was finding that because I was already training my horse, I did not have the will, time, or energy to work another horse. So I posted on craigslist to see if I could find a somewhat experienced horse person who just wanted to ride and we could go on trail rides together (I have not posted this type of ad on CL since). A lady contacted me, and she went on and on and on about how she grew up on a farm, and her daddy had trained horses his whole life. From what she said, she had some riding experience. Warning bells were already going off in my head, but I thought "well let's not judge her until I see how she rides". So she came out for a "test ride".

Right off, she was afraid of walking behind the horse. I made an attempt at explaining that as long as you keep your hand on the horse and stick right to his butt as you walk around, you will be fine. She just absolutely would not do it. Despite what she said over the phone and the fact that she did have some experience, she couldn't do anything. She couldn't saddle, couldn't pick the hooves, couldn't tie. I think the extent of her experience on the ground was brushing the horse. And after all this I let her get on anyway.

So we went out to the arena and I worked the horse. The lady got on despite seeing and me explaining that she can get hot when not worked, and she clearly saw me letting her have a hand gallop before she got on. Of course I walked and cooled out the horse before I let her on. As soon as the lady got on, this very well trained, very calm, and very trustworthy horse started half rearing and acting like she was going to throw a bronco fit. This mare never does this, she is incredibly well trained and very gentle, which is why she is my mother's horse. I grabbed the rein and explained to the lady "I'm sorry, but I don't think this is going to work. You two do not fit each other."

Someone who did have experience and got on a well trained horse almost got thrown off. I still have no idea why it happened, and I am very vigilant and good at catching on to what's wrong. This lady grew up on a farm and even rode as a kid, and had ridden recently (mind you, on well trained business trail horses) and still had problems. I hope you got something out of the story.

So my question is, do you have any riding experience at all? Riding well trained trail horses at trail riding businesses is not enough experience to ride and handle a horse who is not even saddle broke yet. I'm sorry if you are offended by this. When you ask a question and want specific and good advice on a forum, you need to provide as much detail as you can. Unlike your local horse friends, we don't know you and we don't know your situation, and we cannot provide the advice you want without adequate information.
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post #12 of 14 Old 04-29-2014, 03:19 AM
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I have to agree with Horseluvr, Lacey. Without knowing you, and what little we know about the horse, it sounds like it has the potential to be a bad situation. Let me mention two things that would make me nervous.

One is that the horse has not been trained to ride yet. Is it that he was never intended to be ridden? Or does the owner not train? Or was he a challenge to train as a stud?

The other is that he was kept at a stud until this late date. Does he retain any stud behaviours, or was he taught to be a gentleman? Many studs are trained well and are not a problem, but many are not and when they're gelded later in life those behaviours can remain.

These two points can mean nothing, or absolutely everything. I wish for you great happiness and success with your horses, and just like not starting a new driver out with a machine meant for race-car driver, I would want for you a good, solid horse that can teach you more than you teach it - at first. Later, you can get into training wild mustangs if you like, but as exciting as it seems, walking before running gets you further down the road with fewer scrapes and bruises.

Just my opinions, hope you'll let us know what you decide.
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post #13 of 14 Old 04-29-2014, 04:50 AM
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Hi, welcome to the forum!

I know some of these responses can seem a little extreme.. especially when you're excited about your first horse!

Here is where they are coming from. Horses are extremely dangerous. And not just when riding. I have broken bones from handling horses on the ground, and coming off them, and I'm not a horseman or even a serious rider really. Just a hobby rider.

There really isn't any regulation to horses either - like if you go buy a car you can't register it without having it's brakes checked, or it's steering. You wouldn't drive a car liable to blow up or never stop, but the same doesn't go for horses. You get on a horse it could do anything - and still people choose horses indiscriminately.

The reason people are saying that the purchase price doesn't matter etc is that they're saying that a free or cheap horse isn't a reason to get an unsuitable and unsafe horse. From everything you've said about this horse it doesn't sound like it would be suitable for most horse owners. A lot of horse people would even consider it irresponsible for the owner to give this horse to someone without experience training horses.

People here aren't questioning your ability to be a horse owner. They're questioning whether this horse requiring extensive training is right for you. Get a horse if you want a horse. It's a great thing to have. But spending a bit of money now and buying a horse with a bit of training, a bit of experience and the right temperament is going to set you up so much better in the long run, possibly save you from injury, save you money and give you loads more enjoyment and fun. There will still be challenges and hard work, but it's just going to be a lot better experience.

Just think about it. The advice here can sometimes sound harsh, but often it's needed. I remember getting my first horse we were going around it totally wrong until someone had a hard word with us explaining how things were. A first horse isn't the place to get a good deal, or take a chance, or get a free horse. Make good choices for you.
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post #14 of 14 Old 04-30-2014, 01:12 AM
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Thank you Saskia - you were much better at putting that into words than I was.

Truly, Lacey, I hope you can hear that we care enough to say something instead of just shrugging our shoulders and letting you learn (what might be) the hard way.
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