If I understand correctly, over time being barefoot the run forward heels and toes will either correct or not correct and is one of the things determining whether the horse will successfully transition to barefoot over time. Is that correct?
'Is that correct' is a bit of a loaded question, when people have such different ideas!
So, probably stating the obvious to you by the sounds, but weigh up all opinions rationally & don't take anyone on blind faith.
'Run forward' feet are a product of bad/inadequate trimming, and will be easily fixed with some regular, well balanced trims. Toes should be brought back to where they should be in a trim or 2. However, if 'crushed forward' heels have been chronic for a long time, if heels are chronically contracted & weak, esp if since before maturity, they may be structurally weak & prone to 'running forward' and may never become strong enough for 'high performance barefoot' without protection/support. **Basic feel I get from those pics is that this isn't a prob for him tho.
For the most part, it depends on diet, living environment, work environment & how much you do with him, as to whether he can become a 'rock cruncher' or will always need boots on some surfaces.
I'm puzzled about the suggestion that the hooves need to be beveled? I thought I was but apparently not. What I've been basically doing is to file the hoof wall at a 45 degree angle to the sole and up to or nearly up to the white line or water line. On some of the retired horses that have badly flared hooves from neglect I have been filing past the white line
Yes, I meant at the toe, rather than a 'mustang roll'. To bring the breakover back to where it should be. They seriously don't look like the need a lot. Check out e-hoofcare.com which should explain to you what I mean & why.
I take nothing from the sole or the frog. I am trying to exclusively use the sole and the white line as a guide to the wall trim.
That's good IMO. I think it's best to leave a bit much than take too much generally - you can't put it back! Doesn't look like the sole needs any off anyway, but the bars may stand to be lowered a little, esp as heels are long & forward still. Frogs should only be touched when thrushy, daggy material needs to be removed, and for eg. on the first trim, to find the true apex of the frog, it may need to be pared.
They have one long article on when to shoe but did not mention when booting would be a viable option.
I think they're more into shoeing is why
. IMO when to boot is any time the horse needs more support/protection than it has bare, and when boots are a suitable option. Sometimes boots aren't a suitable answer for the particular horse or work it's asked to do, and fixed shoes may be the best option. Egs may be hunting/jumping in slippery condition, racing, certain hoof confo or the way a horse moves.
The depth to the apex of the frog as an indication of sole thickness brought a question to which there is likely an obvious answer. I've read that as the structures within the hoof capsule begin to rehabilitate one of the things that happens is that the sole becomes more concave. This seems like it would cause a greater distance from the hoof plane to the point of the frog which would indicate a thicker sole when it is not thicker. I think I'm confused.
Yep, I'm confused by that!
I don't know that it's absolute, like I think Ramey believes/teaches, but the sole thickness around the apex of the frog is a *relatively* uniform depth regardless of the health of the foot & rest of the sole, and the depth of the sulcus there gives *an indication* of the rest of the sole. Eg. if the sole is really flat, the sulcus close to ground surface, the sole around the outside of P3 would be ultra thin. So as a foot becomes healthier & maybe more concave, the sole should become thicker, although the point we're talking about will be roughly the same thickness.
Lastly, I thought about posting in an appropriate sub-forum but as a new member I had not made and introduction and...
Yes, best to consider the most appropriate part of the forum, but
embarrassed to say, I had the 'horse riding' section open in another window, thought that's where I was where you posted. Pardon!