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post #31 of 41 Old 11-24-2015, 03:38 PM
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Best of luck to the OP, keep your head high :)
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I appreciat all of the comments from every one. Your concern is genuine. The people who own the stable where I board are helping me on the ground work with my girl and helping me know what to do and how, and reinforcing me when I do right and helping where I need to improve. They have 25 years experiene each with horses and it is obvious that the horses all respect them the moment they touch them. No fear, just respect. The stable has 15 horses and we are kind of like a family with a mix of experience, but the same love of horses. Eveyone is very supportive. I just posted the question to see other views. I am making progress with my girl. She is smart, and she does do what I ask most of the time, but like any 4 year old, she tests. She is learning that I am the "boss". She is a good girl and very smart, and I look forward to working with her every day. I am not in a big panic to run through the field at a gallop with the wind blowing through my hair, I just enjoy spending time with her... grooming, lunging, riding, walking... and I do make sure to end every session on a positinve note. So thank you everyone, for your input, and I will keep you posted.
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post #33 of 41 Old 11-24-2015, 11:30 PM
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SavitasMom, I am so glad you posted again. Sounds like you are at a great barn with lots of supportive friends (much like the barn I board my horse at & am so grateful to be at) and moving ahead in a positive fashion, taking time to do lots of ground work etc. to set the stage with your new horse. Spent the time, be patient (firm but fair) and best of luck on your new journey!!
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post #34 of 41 Old 11-25-2015, 05:17 PM
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I think you have the best possible situation for having a green horse but having little experience yourself. Not only knowledgeable trainers but boarders who are supportive. Friendly boarders can be a great resource. Most people like to help and share.
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post #35 of 41 Old 11-25-2015, 07:55 PM
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Just some advice Id like to give you.

Boarders are great when they offer to help you out and go out of their way to teach you stuff. But take their words with a grain of salt and dont take it as if its always true. I learned this the hard way at my old barn where everyone wanted to help me and give advice. They could say "Ive been around horses all my life....for so and so number of years....I know my horses" yada yada yada. Take it with a grain of salt.

ive received bad incorrect advice from boarders who have been around their horses for many years! So just be cautious is all im saying. Just because someone says they've been working with horses for however many years, doesnt mean anything.
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Just because someone says they've been working with horses for however many years, doesnt mean anything.
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post #37 of 41 Old 11-25-2015, 09:29 PM
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Hi Mom, All!

The above applies to advice found on-line (even here), as well. Always apply "critical thinking" before you apply "advice", freely given or otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

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post #38 of 41 Old 11-25-2015, 10:17 PM
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Just some advice Id like to give you.

Boarders are great when they offer to help you out and go out of their way to teach you stuff. But take their words with a grain of salt and dont take it as if its always true. I learned this the hard way at my old barn where everyone wanted to help me and give advice. They could say "Ive been around horses all my life....for so and so number of years....I know my horses" yada yada yada. Take it with a grain of salt.

ive received bad incorrect advice from boarders who have been around their horses for many years! So just be cautious is all im saying. Just because someone says they've been working with horses for however many years, doesnt mean anything.
HOWEVER, at least you can observe them and their horses and decide who knows what they are talking about, on line you have ZERO idea who you are talking to, so even more caution is needed. All in all you can learn so much from your fellow boarders, even if it is what not to do
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post #39 of 41 Old 12-05-2015, 11:12 AM
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I am in by no means a professional or a veteran horseman either. So, I can not give you any rock solid advise based on years of experience like many people on this forum can. That said, I am in a similar situation. My wife bought a green broke mustang from a BLM auction. It is supposed to be her horse and I am not supposed to have to have anything to do with it. She has fed it and cleaned its stall but has only ridden it a couple times. I have been on it every day except one day that was pouring rain and another day that I had the 24 hour flu. I have some horse experience but it was 10-15 years ago and never with a green horse.

I posted a thread about it in the training forum a week or two ago. We had Thunder (the horse) for about 10 days and everything was going well. I got over confident and took him on a 2 hour ride through the country side. I tried to make him do some stuff that he was not ready for, he refused, and I did not know how to force him. I ended up walking him back because he refused to move. The next day, he decided he was the boss. He would not turn right and would randomly stop and refuse to move. I got advice on here and some advice from a local trainer. It took me about 5 days of a lot of work to get him back where he was. Is it possible that something similar happened with you? I have learned that horses (or at least mine) are smart. You can do something good or bad just one time and at least at this stage of their development, it makes a difference for them. With my horse, if I give him an inch, he will take a mile.

A final thought. Are you intimidated by her at all? Our horse is IMHO too large (16 hands) for my 5'2" wife. She has a difficult time getting on him to start with. She does not act confident around him. She eases the saddle on because she is worried about spooking him. She is timid about getting on him. She stays away from fences or anything she could hit if she gets thrown. I can tell that she is afraid of getting thrown. When she walks behind him she goes 10 feet behind him so that she doesn't get kicked. Animals can sense these things. He often does not cooperate for her. I do not think he respects her. I could go on with more examples but you get the idea. Me on the other hand, I have no fear of being thrown. I know it is a possibility but I have done dangerous stuff all my life and am not afraid of it in the least. I stay close to him when I am working him and walk right behind him. He has never kicked me but I have gotten my foot stepped on a few times. Yeah it hurts but life goes on and that is part of the challenge of working with a green horse. I like a challenge. The horse seems to respect me and does what I ask of it. If I get off and leave the reins on the saddle, he will follow me and stop with me without my touching him. I have been working with him for 3 or 4 weeks now. Are you assertive and confident in your interaction with your horse or have you shown fear or submissiveness possibly?

I don't know if this helps at all. It is just my experience with a somewhat similar situation over the last few weeks.
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I am in by no means a professional or a veteran horseman either. So, I can not give you any rock solid advise based on years of experience like many people on this forum can. That said, I am in a similar situation. My wife bought a green broke mustang from a BLM auction. It is supposed to be her horse and I am not supposed to have to have anything to do with it. She has fed it and cleaned its stall but has only ridden it a couple times. I have been on it every day except one day that was pouring rain and another day that I had the 24 hour flu. I have some horse experience but it was 10-15 years ago and never with a green horse.

I posted a thread about it in the training forum a week or two ago. We had Thunder (the horse) for about 10 days and everything was going well. I got over confident and took him on a 2 hour ride through the country side. I tried to make him do some stuff that he was not ready for, he refused, and I did not know how to force him. I ended up walking him back because he refused to move. The next day, he decided he was the boss. He would not turn right and would randomly stop and refuse to move. I got advice on here and some advice from a local trainer. It took me about 5 days of a lot of work to get him back where he was. Is it possible that something similar happened with you? I have learned that horses (or at least mine) are smart. You can do something good or bad just one time and at least at this stage of their development, it makes a difference for them. With my horse, if I give him an inch, he will take a mile.

A final thought. Are you intimidated by her at all? Our horse is IMHO too large (16 hands) for my 5'2" wife. She has a difficult time getting on him to start with. She does not act confident around him. She eases the saddle on because she is worried about spooking him. She is timid about getting on him. She stays away from fences or anything she could hit if she gets thrown. I can tell that she is afraid of getting thrown. When she walks behind him she goes 10 feet behind him so that she doesn't get kicked. Animals can sense these things. He often does not cooperate for her. I do not think he respects her. I could go on with more examples but you get the idea. Me on the other hand, I have no fear of being thrown. I know it is a possibility but I have done dangerous stuff all my life and am not afraid of it in the least. I stay close to him when I am working him and walk right behind him. He has never kicked me but I have gotten my foot stepped on a few times. Yeah it hurts but life goes on and that is part of the challenge of working with a green horse. I like a challenge. The horse seems to respect me and does what I ask of it. If I get off and leave the reins on the saddle, he will follow me and stop with me without my touching him. I have been working with him for 3 or 4 weeks now. Are you assertive and confident in your interaction with your horse or have you shown fear or submissiveness possibly?

I don't know if this helps at all. It is just my experience with a somewhat similar situation over the last few weeks.
Do her a favour, buy her a horse better suited to her ability and either keep that one yourself or sell him to a rider more suited to him.

The way things are, someone is likely to get hurt

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