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post #11 of 24 Old 05-01-2016, 01:28 AM
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I meant, it screams "not a fancy arena horse" :) - that's the only kind we get around here
There is no such thing.
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True, horses that have never been exposed to an arena, esp a busy one, with horses going at various gaits and even directions, can be out of their comfort zone, much as a horse only arena ridden is, when first ridden out
Still, if a horse is broke, they should not blow. I never had an indoor arena to train my young horses in, thus they often never saw an indoor arena, until I hauled them to some, to clinics, ect, and they did not 'blow'
Often, hauled young horses to indoor arenas, when footing got too tricky in winter, so I could really work them, without being afraid they might go down, and they did not blow, even on their first time there-in fact, often i started them loping there, because it was too icy to do that outside
Thus, I agree that this horse is either arena sour, which does not mean that she has to be a show horse-just that someone worked her hard in an arena, or you yet have to earn her trust and respect, that allows you to ride her outside of her familiar comfort zone
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There are barns around here with all sorts of horses that never see a trail, simply because they don't have access to one without transport, I actually found it harder to find a horse that had been ridden on trails than I did to find one that had.
A lot of arena horse do get the legs bored off them if they don't get challenged enough and some simply don't enjoy working in an arena - Honey and K will both head off up the drive to ride around the roads if given the choice of that or manège work and all of my horses are capable of inventing a monster in the corner if they don't want to do schooling work and they could really frighten a rider who wasn't used to them if they thought they could get away with it
Maybe you could lunge your horse in the arena and do some groundwork in there for short periods before riding him if he's being a bit intimidating under saddle?
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post #14 of 24 Old 05-01-2016, 12:36 PM
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In any case, we litteraly have 4 closed arenas in the entire country (I'm not joking), so I would never have found a horse to try both in the arena and on trail. Never mind, she's making progress
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Seeing as you say "Weeeeellllll, get her into a school, indoor or outdoor and she melts down" are you saying that most people do not have any sort of schooling area to ride in?

I had no access to a covered arena to try him, but never worried about taking him in one, after seeing his reaction to everything else
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post #15 of 24 Old 05-01-2016, 12:40 PM
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So, all I wanted in life was a perfect trail horse. And I found one. Tested her to bits all over, on her own, in a group (In front and last), past farm animals and machinery, dogs, rabid teenagers, hedge trimmers throwing pebbles and grass at her feet - all perfect! Shied at a gaggle of geese - I took her word for it, they are quite nasty.

Weeeeellllll, get her into a school, indoor or outdoor and she melts down. I was utterly speachless, we are all so used to horses behaving much better in a school that I didn't even think this could possibly be an issue.

Anyways, we are now working on getting my horse used to an arena environment.
I tried a horse that was just the same. It seemed to me that she must have had some bad experiences in the arena environment to be so crazy under those circumstances. She was such a good horse on the trail, but her crazy behavior in the arena made me wonder what she might do if things really got heated out on the trail, since I had to struggle so hard to control her in the arena environment. I really wanted her, but didn't buy her for that reason.

I hope you are able to get your horse adjusted to the arena. Seems we've had a lot of discussion on this in other threads as I found it really hard to find horses that were balanced in both directions.
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My dead broke trail horse wanted to spook badly at every corner of the arena for the first 4-5 circuits of the first arena he ever was in. He then started to calm down though he didn't get over wanting to spook at one of the corners for the first several rides in that arena, the corner was then lowered to the level of getting the stink eye after that (never did get over that one corner in the dozen or so rides there). Anyway my point is a green rider might take his bit of spookiness as a total melt down and if he had a green rider on his back that spookiness might of turned into a total melt down depending on how his rider reacted.
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Thanks for this thread. Also semi-beginner here (or reborn adult horse-lover) looking at a horse that is supposed to be trail safe and bombproof, but may not have been ridden much in an arena. I'd need it to be ok with working in an outdoor arena at least so will make sure I try him in one. Any fenced-off area would work I would think.
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post #18 of 24 Old 05-02-2016, 11:47 AM
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Thanks for this thread. Also semi-beginner here (or reborn adult horse-lover) looking at a horse that is supposed to be trail safe and bombproof, but may not have been ridden much in an arena. I'd need it to be ok with working in an outdoor arena at least so will make sure I try him in one. Any fenced-off area would work I would think.
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post #19 of 24 Old 05-02-2016, 01:25 PM
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Some people turn arena-sour horses into trail horses after they've burned them out on arena training, usually for disciplines they're just not suited for. They're only ever taken to an arena to work and nothing else.

You can build some positive associations with the arena or riding ring, but it will take time. Maybe instead of grooming in the barn, groom and turn the horse out there. Feed some treats, love on her, then mount up and go out for a ride. You could also work on playing some games to turn her work-only association into "OK, something fun is about to happen!"
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post #20 of 24 Old 05-03-2016, 07:41 AM
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This is the exact way my horse and my oldest daughters horses are. Mine doesn't "blow up" in the arena but gets bored very quick as I do. She prefers the trail just like I do. That's why we make a good match. Now my daughters "ring princess" is awesome in the arena and will do trail unless it involves a water crossing. Wants NO part of it. I believe horses get burned out just like we do.
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