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post #11 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 04:22 PM
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FWIW, one of these might help:

There may be easier saddles to stay in, but I don't know what they would look like!

More seriously, think about your knees (as Roman suggested). When I was starting a few years ago, I'd squeeze hard with my knees any time I got nervous. That is a horrible thing to do, but it was a tough habit to overcome. I had to make a conscious decision to shove my knees apart during a bolt, spin, etc. Squeezing encourages a horse to go faster while killing your balance.

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post #12 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 04:47 PM
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Well, 5 more falls and you will be an expert rider! Just kidding (has anyone else heard that myth that 7 falls magically makes you an expert!?)

You have some really sound advice on here and I am super glad to hear you trainer will be putting you on a different mount. Keep at it and don't let this get you down.
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post #13 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 04:57 PM
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^^^I heard the 7 falls thing said lots of times. It made me an expert rider at the age of 5!!!
I'm glad your trainer has found a better horse for you to take lessons on - a true beginner horse shouldn't over react to things like squeezing knees or heels a bit too far in - though that doesn't mean you shouldn't work on improving your position of course!!!
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post #14 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 05:06 PM
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Its more than 7 falls I think... I've heard its a hundred
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post #15 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 05:12 PM
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Six is really young for a lesson horse.

My mare is only 6 years old as well. She can be a complete angel for little kids but will give other adults a hard time. When I ride her she's perfect 95% of the time but can freak out/spook because...after all...she's still a kid.
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post #16 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 07:26 PM
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Agree that it was probably a combination of things, but you have the right idea in asking for another horse at this point! I also think that six is pretty young for most lesson horses. For you to improve, it is a lot easier on a more forgiving mount! ;)

Let us know how things go next time with the older QH!
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post #17 of 35 Old 08-20-2014, 08:28 PM
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One thing that comes to mind, is that you say the horse moves from a canter to a gallop and starts bucking. Back when I had a reliable beginner's horse or two, I would sometimes allow relatives to ride. Some people don't know they are out of control until it is too late. In other words, you may be missing the signal the horse is going to speed up and get she speeds up and gets frisky because you are not correcting her before she gets to that point.

Whereas a more experienced rider may feel in the horse's body that it is getting excited and getting ready to buck. So you might just be missing the signal because you haven't been riding long enough. That comes with time so don't despair.

I have had several people get "run away with" on my very first horse years ago. Not because he was a bad first horse, he was awesome. But because they just let him get faster and faster until pretty soon he was having a good time doing whatever he wanted. They didn't seem to know to check his speed before he got out of their control. Preventing the horse from getting out of control in the first place should be the goal.

BUT, I have a green 4 yr old and I know he won't be ready for beginners by the time he is 6. He's almost too much horse for me at 4. God bless the horses that are beginner safe at 6!

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post #18 of 35 Old 08-21-2014, 08:30 AM
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One thing I teach all novices to do is of anything happens and they feel unsafe is to put one hand under the pommel of the saddle and to try and pull it off the horse's back. This makes them lean back, as you found a far safer position to be in!
The other hand can be raised really high to get the horse's head up pr to pull it round on a circle.
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post #19 of 35 Old 08-21-2014, 09:40 AM
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A horse may go from a canter to a gallop for a number of reasons including a rider's leaning forward, squeezing with the legs, or inadvertently applying spurs. How a rider responds will determine what happens thereafter. If the rider simply pulls on the reins, the horse will likely lean on the bit and run faster, especially if the rider tries to hold on with his legs. If the rider jerks on the reins, the horse may throw its head or even buck. A better response would be a resist and give application of one or both reins. Turning the horse in a circle can help regain control by gradually slowing the horse's forward movement.

A balanced, relaxed, and following seat always aids in the stability of the rider. It also helps the horse relax. A horse moving with relaxed muscles is much easier to ride than one moving with tense muscles. By releasing any tension in his muscles, a rider takes on a much more stable position. The torso is allowed to expand and the bones of the spine align vertically with their natural shock absorbing curves. Relaxed muscles around the pelvis allow the rider to sink deeply into the saddle, lowering the center of gravity. Relaxed muscles around the pelvis and throughout the legs and feet, allow the rider's legs to wrap around the horse's body with adhesion but without gripping. As gravity pulls a rider downward, the stirrups support the balls of the rider's feet while the heels sink deeper without the rider needing to push them down. With such a stable seat, the rider can relax and follow the movements of his horse's body.

When the rider does this, the horse begins to release tension in its body. The horse's movements become softer and smoother. As the horse becomes accustomed to the rider's body following the movements of its body, the horse also begins to change the movements of its body to match those of the rider when the rider consciously changes his balance and movement. Gross cues are no longer needed. The horse begins to respond to subtle aids with smooth and almost effortless changes in its movement.
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post #20 of 35 Old 08-21-2014, 11:07 AM
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Most good lesson horses for beginners are on the lazy side. Like it takes skill and balance to even get them to agree to canter. I agree this horse shouldn't be a lesson horse and I also agree that working on your balance and core strength will help a lot.

Check out the 30 day ab challenge (just google it). It's hard work but really does help develop your core strength. Yoga and pilates will help too.

You can also get one of those big yoga balls and practice sitting on it with your feet off of the ground. This will help your balance.

Also practice HEELS DOWN on a stair. You need to train the muscles in your ankles to stay down, otherwise your reaction when losing control is to fall forward and 'turtle' - a recipe for falling. But you need to build the muscle memory to do it.

Just keep riding on a horse you can trust and maybe work on perfecting your trot (I agree with some no stirrup work if you can do it) before moving up to the canter. And if you fall again and the coach doesn't give you some sound advice, find a new coach!
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