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post #11 of 32 Old 03-30-2016, 07:59 PM
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By the way Jan, I think Gatsby is gorgeous. I am training an OTTB for a client to be a trail horse (he's doing really well) and he looks so much like your Gatsby! He's also got an incredible powerful stride; he can be totally relaxed yet his stride feels like he could spring into full gallop at any second! I've ridden several TBs, OTTBs, and Appendixes, and none of them ever felt like this horse.

Anyway, the point was, I think Gatsby is lovely!
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I recall your purchase post about Gatsby, and I just hope you haven't bought a horse that might be too much horse for you and your son. I remember one of the deciding factors of your purchase was that you asked your trainer if you were 'crazy to pass up on this horse', and she said yes. I hope she said yes because this is the right horse for you, and not because this is an extremely talented horse that perhaps you are not ready for. I can think of a few horses that I would consider myself crazy to pass up on, but these horses would not be suitable for a lot of the horse people I know (mostly hobby/trail riders that need low key horses that never bat an eye at anything).

Well, there's my 2 cents, or pile of dirt. Whatever its worth.
She didn't mean I was crazy for passing him up because he was talented. She meant because he is a horse with jumping ability that ALSO has a calm temperament. We are not aiming to compete and she knows that. I promise you I did not base my purchase on his athleticism but rather on his personality/temperament. We are simple horse people. A fancy show horse is not for us and our trainer knows that.

I don't feel like he's too much horse for us in our current situation. On our own, definitely yes. Under the trainer's guidance, no. I went into this knowing that she'd be there and that he could go into training at any time. I would not buy a hunter/jumper and keep it at home, as we are a LONG WAYS from my son even thinking of jumping outside a lesson. I let him do trot poles when we are alone but that's it.

Thanks for your concern though. :)
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By the way Jan, I think Gatsby is gorgeous. I am training an OTTB for a client to be a trail horse (he's doing really well) and he looks so much like your Gatsby! He's also got an incredible powerful stride; he can be totally relaxed yet his stride feels like he could spring into full gallop at any second! I've ridden several TBs, OTTBs, and Appendixes, and none of them ever felt like this horse.

Anyway, the point was, I think Gatsby is lovely!
Thank you! :) That does sound like him. I was actually afraid of him the first time I saw him for the reasons you said--I told my son's teacher that he looked like an unsprung spring ready to bounce. Once I got to know him, though, I realized how great he was. Just because he CAN gallop powerfully doesn't mean he DOES. I was around this horse for probably a month before we decided to buy him.
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I am so glad you have a trainer to help you through this.

And sorry but I have to say this. This is EXACTLY the reason an OTTB is not for inexperienced riders. Even though you have experience with horses, racehorses really are a different category. They can be very calm and placid, until they are not. This horse saw the holes in YOUR training VERY quickly, and is taking advantage of it. And yes before someone decides to point it out, other breeds may do that as well, but an OTTB is more likely to be hot and stupid about it, after all they are bred to run.

If you are comfortable riding this horse with the guidance of your instructor, then persevere. You will be a great team in a few months. If your son is a beginner, is it possible to get him lessons on a school horse? I gave my stepdaughters some lessons as kids, on my OTTB but I wouldn't let them off the lunge.
I would venture to say he is not your typical OTTB and if you could meet him you would understand what I mean. He will be ridden by the trainer 5x a week, and we will both be taking lessons on him. I think, even if he is a bit much horse for us right now, our trainer can help us through the next year or so until we ARE ready to go solo on him.
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I would venture to say he is not your typical OTTB and if you could meet him you would understand what I mean. He will be ridden by the trainer 5x a week, and we will both be taking lessons on him. I think, even if he is a bit much horse for us right now, our trainer can help us through the next year or so until we ARE ready to go solo on him.
Sounds great. But I would suggest he IS your typical OTTB!
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Sounds great. But I would suggest he IS your typical OTTB!
Okay, well even then, we have lots of support. :) If we start to feel uneasy, we can stop riding him outside of our lessons and take more lessons. If we end up deciding he's really too much, we can sell him and move on and consider this a lesson learned. I really trust our trainer. I do not think she would have recommended a horse we couldn't handle. But, if so, we'll deal with it.
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Okay, well even then, we have lots of support. :) If we start to feel uneasy, we can stop riding him outside of our lessons and take more lessons. If we end up deciding he's really too much, we can sell him and move on and consider this a lesson learned. I really trust our trainer. I do not think she would have recommended a horse we couldn't handle. But, if so, we'll deal with it.
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Thank you! :) That does sound like him. I was actually afraid of him the first time I saw him for the reasons you said--I told my son's teacher that he looked like an unsprung spring ready to bounce. Once I got to know him, though, I realized how great he was. Just because he CAN gallop powerfully doesn't mean he DOES. I was around this horse for probably a month before we decided to buy him.
When I first started working with this horse, I was a bit worried for my client's safety. He can be a jerk on the ground, and acts like a complete nut when you turn him loose in the round pen. He doesn't stand great either. (Have been working on all these things and he is improving).
But when you get him under saddle, he is almost an angel. Calm, quiet, but moves with intelligence, sensitivity, power, and a general good tempered willingness. Obviously he has some issues here and there (that's why they hired me), but he has not spooked a single time yet, while the other calmer OTTB is a nervous spooky nelly away from home.
I changed my mind about him when I got aboard. I have said that he would make an amazing eventer, jumping, or dressage horse, or even liberty. If we weren't moving to a different country I would probably try to buy him!

And I'm glad to know your trainer has your best interest in mind! I have worked with a few that were the opposite.
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Okay, well even then, we have lots of support. :) If we start to feel uneasy, we can stop riding him outside of our lessons and take more lessons. If we end up deciding he's really too much, we can sell him and move on and consider this a lesson learned. I really trust our trainer. I do not think she would have recommended a horse we couldn't handle. But, if so, we'll deal with it.
Yes, I got that you are comfortable riding him under your trainers guidance and if you are happy to do so now you should be fine going forward. And btw, he is lovely and I like his name.
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Jan, you have the best attitude and plan for all of this. If more new horse owners approached things like you, more of them would find success with their new horses. :)
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