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post #1 of 11 Old 08-11-2019, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Outside opinion for upcoming events!

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Because it's summer holidays it means my original riding plans have been thrown in the bin :( The drivers that transport the herd to and from the field/yard twice weekly are on holiday. So far I've had to visit Katie in the field the last fortnight and I've learned that the drivers will be gone again until September. Staff will still be holding their own fun rides and have offered to hack Katie from the field with some of the other horses. My concerns:

1. it's just under 2 hours of hacking one way on hard surfaces which wont include the (light) riding I would want to do when she's here

2. Katie's back feet still haven't fully grown out the damage she did by twisting both back shoes off a month ago. They look 100% better, she's not sore but they are quick to wear down atm so want to be mindful. Can't put on shoes because there's really not much to attach them to securely. I have been measuring for boots but it's not easy when her feet are dinner plates and custom tailored for post and pre trim requirements.

Am I overestimating how much her hind feet could get worn down in 4 hours of hacking (2 hours there and 2 hours back later in the week). Since having her back shoes off she's mostly been a field ornament with the holiday herd. Just a few light rides here and there inbetween when she was at the yard.

Lastly they want to take her to a small local jumping even this weds. Last time I was inbetween insurers so it was a big no no. But again my concern is that she's not been schooled the last fortnight, her hind feet are a bit poop. I feel like I'm maybe being or seen as a bit of a "princess" lol but I just worry... Thing is Katie would also LOVE this event and the hacking above. It's not a question of ridden ability or her enjoyment, but more of her health.

Aaaah. Any thoughts?
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post #2 of 11 Old 08-11-2019, 02:00 PM
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If she is not used to riding on roads barefoot, then that amount of road riding would set her healing progress way back. I'd say no thanks.

But the jumping event would seem to be ok.
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post #3 of 11 Old 08-11-2019, 08:37 PM
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Is this a hard surface road, or gravel? If it is hard, I would not hesitate to let them do it, then check her for soreness. Two hours (at a walk) is not much for a horse.
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post #4 of 11 Old 08-12-2019, 02:15 PM
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Yes, It could set back her progress in a 2 hour road hack. I have a horse with large hooves (takes a size 4/5 in cavellos and can't fit into many boots), so I understand your dilemma on Hoof boots. You could create some sort of padding under the hoof, but traction would be an issue. Are you only walking on this hack?
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post #5 of 11 Old 08-12-2019, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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@greentree and @Jolly101 it's a mixture but the roads they begin on are more concrete and closer to city centre tarmac. It's not 2 hours walking - it's plenty trot and canter otherwise it'd take them even longer. Since having her shoes off she's really worn them down. Bit stuck in a lose-lose situation it feels right now with her growth.

@tinyliny I think I'm just gonna play it safe. I did say yes to the show as a single round over jumps can't hurt.

I guess I just need to give her more time and good diet to adjust. She is being trimmed for balance and not sore but it's pretty crazy how they worn down so fast just from turnout and next to no work o,o
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post #6 of 11 Old 08-13-2019, 11:57 AM
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If her hooves are really soft she might do better with some sort of protection until they grow, to give them chance to grow.
How big are they?
Once she can be shod she might be better with some lightweight shoes rather than standard weight

Just winging it is not a plan
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post #7 of 11 Old 08-13-2019, 01:35 PM
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Trotting, cantering on pavement for 2 hours...heck no!!
Barefoot..... I'd get in trouble to write what I want.
No, no, and more no, not if it was my horse!

Even the show...
Has she been ridden since she messed up her feet?
If ridden then with a strict understanding that she is in one class, one round of jumps and 3 practice jumps for warmup and a conservative time ridden for warming up her muscles...pounding on her, no!
{Katie would be vanned to the show correct? Not ridden to that destination then expect to perform...}

Excuse me for putting this here but ....
I thought those at the yard made a bunch of excuses about riding Katie and no one was "available" to hack her and give you the assistance you needed but suddenly the place has a great need for Katie so they can run and jump her...
Is that a accurate scenario...
Think about that...who is being convenient for whom and who is benefiting $$ from use of Katie???
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post #8 of 11 Old 08-13-2019, 03:11 PM Thread Starter
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@horselovinguy the lady that is going to ride her loves loves loves Katie but doesn't get to see her much. She is also very honest that she isn't comfortable hacking Katie out alone which I respect. I'd rather they say that than try to play it down, like I feel other staff members have done? Horsebox transport to show and only a single round of low jumps. I am really torn when they ask me to use her. They did ask if they could take her on a two week camping trip without me - it was only after I said no that they said I could even join them for a few days... they must have thought I was crazy! Never mind her feet there was no chance my partner and I were gonna let them use her for a fortnight paying full board and getting zero benefit from it. They really push the angle that "Katie will love the experience". Well.. what about me? -.- I did feel bad for "denying" Katie that but at the same time she was perfectly happy chilling in the fields with the herd while resting her feet. I am FULLY aware that people will try to milk me which is why I say no to most of their requests 9/10 times. It wont matter soon as I have already booked a trainer weekly to begin in September and with that I'll be taking on most of the ridden duties. I am in sort of fed up mode. Since coming here I haven't really been offered much of anything even though I let them use her for weekly staff lesson since one of their horses got an injury. They see it as they doing me a favour as I'm not having to pay for her schooling and in truth I do want her ridden by staff more to break up her day than anything else. I'm ok with that. The yard manager who originally said she'd be able to offer me lessons says she's too busy and basically I come away from that convo feeling I'm just an inconvenience. Boarding costs me £23 a day and 3 or 4 of those days a week she's out munching grass and she's basically been turned out nearly the entirety of August because transport isn't available. Despite this they are still the best option I have and she gets a crazy amount of turnout... I do really like it here. Just that gets me down.

@jaydee what options could I use for padding you think? That would stay on heh! When I'm home I'll fish out the measurements.
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post #9 of 11 Old 08-13-2019, 06:34 PM
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Not sure what you mean by padding?
We sometimes wrap hooves that need some protection if boots canít be used - for that we just use a layer of padding on the sole, something like gamgee, held in place with vetwrap and then silage tape around that. It has to come off every couple of days and the hooves sprayed with a hoof disinfectant

A good farrier might be able to get some light shoes to stay on if thereís enough foot to nail into
There are some companies that sell bigger boots, the UK has more cob and draft crosses so there should be something out there

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post #10 of 11 Old 08-13-2019, 07:51 PM
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What about glue-on shoes? I've heard great things about them.

My horses are all barefoot, and will stay that way unless something changes. But there are sooooo many options now! Harley wears EasyBoot Gloves on the fronts and they're great. I did look at glue-on shoes for him too and there are quite a few to choose from with some excellent reviews. The only tricky part would be to find someone who will do that.

And yeah, I think taking Katie to a show is fine. Not sure about the hack through city streets - that's a foreign concept to me. But as someone who gets sore feet from walking on concrete because I do it so rarely, I can only imagine what it would do to hooves.

Going to shows is a great experience for horses I think. It teaches them to cope with all sorts of sights and sounds.

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