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post #21 of 34 Old 12-18-2015, 06:23 PM
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Wow, that's a mess. Sounds similar to a problem I had once on an "open ride" night where there wasn't supposed to be barrel practice (they had other nights for barrel racers to practice) and a girl that was "working the rail" was going one way one second, then turned her horse on his hindquarters and slammed right into me and my friend who were riding the rail at a walk. No serious injuries but my mare did kick at the other horse.

Is there really nowhere else to ride? If there is a field or cleared area with decent footing (not covered in tons and tons of rock like it is here in the desert) maybe you could start riding there? If the horse is even relatively safe and well trained you shouldn't really need a fenced arena.

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Geez, that does sound like a circus.
You should see it when a couple of determined dressage riders get thrown in the mix, weaving around the jumps in their fancy moves I can't name for the life of me. It turns into a three-ring circus.
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Wow, that's a mess. Sounds similar to a problem I had once on an "open ride" night where there wasn't supposed to be barrel practice (they had other nights for barrel racers to practice) and a girl that was "working the rail" was going one way one second, then turned her horse on his hindquarters and slammed right into me and my friend who were riding the rail at a walk. No serious injuries but my mare did kick at the other horse.

Is there really nowhere else to ride? If there is a field or cleared area with decent footing (not covered in tons and tons of rock like it is here in the desert) maybe you could start riding there? If the horse is even relatively safe and well trained you shouldn't really need a fenced arena.
I suppose there will always be people like that, even in the most organised facilities so I should learn how to deal with it. I just can't seem to do it right now.

I mentioned earlier that we are usually fine because I scheduled my lessons in the least popular time slots but it happens occasionally. In summer my instructor takes me out on the trail when the school is too busy but it's not possible at the moment, it's very muddy and my lessons are quite late in the evening (the leat popular time slot).

Thank you for the suggestion.
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I haven't read every post so forgive me if this has already been said.

It seems to be as though you are wasting your time and your money in a situation that's no longer about learning how to ride, but about learning how to overcome a situation that only exists in the arena where you take your lessons. Sitting on a horse waiting to develop confidence with other horses jumping all around you is not a riding lesson.

If these are the only trainers in your area, you have every right to complain that you're not getting what you're paying for, which is an actual riding lesson. Instead of sitting on the back of a horse that you're afraid to ride you ought to be learning how to use leg aids, reining, and so forth, in various gaits. That's how most of us work to develop confidence and of course you're not developing that under these circumstances.

I'd ask for a reduction in price, at the very least, until they can figure out how to give you what you're paying for.
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If I could recap, it seems that the general consensus is that I should push myself, but not as far as having panic attacks. My game plan is to tell my instructor that I will sit out the lessons when there are people jumping and maybe trott around when/if they are taking a break. Basically, go back to my instructors initial plan, but without her pushing me when she thinks I'm ready.

I would like to thank all of you for your help and the time you took to think about my silly problems (in the grand scheme of things). This is a great comunity.
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Maybe you could put up a notice in a common area with some sort of poll asking other riders if they like the situation or would they be willing to compromise with different jumping vs non jumping times/days.
If a lot of people were interested then maybe some meetings could sort things out.
Rotate the good & not-so-good times to be fair? Maybe a 2 hour rotation? Start with a few non-jumping & jumping only rides & see if people like them.
Change will meet with resistance at first but I think it could work.
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I haven't read every post so forgive me if this has already been said.

It seems to be as though you are wasting your time and your money in a situation that's no longer about learning how to ride, but about learning how to overcome a situation that only exists in the arena where you take your lessons. Sitting on a horse waiting to develop confidence with other horses jumping all around you is not a riding lesson.

If these are the only trainers in your area, you have every right to complain that you're not getting what you're paying for, which is an actual riding lesson. Instead of sitting on the back of a horse that you're afraid to ride you ought to be learning how to use leg aids, reining, and so forth, in various gaits. That's how most of us work to develop confidence and of course you're not developing that under these circumstances.

I'd ask for a reduction in price, at the very least, until they can figure out how to give you what you're paying for.
I agree with you in principle, however life is usually a bit more nuanced. I don't mind paying for the occasional "sitting" lesson (once or twice a month during winter) because my instructor is really great and always goes out of her way to give me the best possible service. She often throws in a freebie trail ride after a lesson, lets me ride a bit longer when I'm having a particularly good ride and is generally awesome. Thank you for your advice.
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Maybe you could put up a notice in a common area with some sort of poll asking other riders if they like the situation or would they be willing to compromise with different jumping vs non jumping times/days.
If a lot of people were interested then maybe some meetings could sort things out.
Rotate the good & not-so-good times to be fair? Maybe a 2 hour rotation? Start with a few non-jumping & jumping only rides & see if people like them.
Change will meet with resistance at first but I think it could work.
There is a (very) slight chance it might work, but I just don't have the patience to deal with all those people and their drama. I'd rather work around them as best I can. Regardless, thank you for the suggestion.
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If you don't mind me asking, Horsef, what country are you in?
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If you don't mind me asking, Horsef, what country are you in?
My job has made me a bit paranoid about Internet security, so I don't like to give out personal information (silly, as if Google and Microsoft would even ask for permission ), I hope you don't mind me being a bit vague. I'm in a smallish Eastern European country.
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