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post #11 of 16 Old 08-23-2017, 06:23 PM
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It's good news that the "barn" is really just a three-sided shelter. That means you can get in there with a machine and move the manure more easily and efficiently. While you're at it, maybe you can get some out of the paddock as well, but it's hard to move manure if it's not on a completely level surface. As for giving it away, it all depends on where you live. I couldn't pay someone to take my manure away so we compost it on our own property. Just try to move it as far away from the barn as you can and it will compost.

It's great that the owner is being up front with you, and accepting your help. I agree that you should cultivate that trust while you continue to look for solutions.

Have you started handling the horse? Putting a halter on it, leading it around, etc.. It might be necessary if she needs a farrier to come, or a vet.

I love Arabians, by the way, and am the proud owner of one myself. They are the most amazing, intelligent, and personable horses I've known. But they can also be too smart for their own good!

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask more questions.
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post #12 of 16 Old 08-23-2017, 07:06 PM
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A 3-sided structure is actually better for what you are wanting to help with and get done.
A skilled person behind the controls of tractor or skid-steer will easily scrape and remove the accumulated mess.
Would be so much easier to replace clean dirt for the heavily soiled mess needing extraction.

A mice infestation can be a issue for you too at your home.
Keep vigilant about it.
And honestly, if the home is that infested it needs professional fumigation to rid the problem and not send it out to the neighbors.
Mice can be carriers of terrible disease...
I don't know about signs or symptoms of bites and onset of disease complications but that is just gross...
Is the person also a hoarder inside the house of just everything?
I've seen on TV homes such as this condemned by authorities.
How very sad....just sad.

If this person called 911 then authorities have been inside and paperwork may already be started in the system for her to get help cleaning and clearing the house as evidence of a serious, very serious rodent problem is hard to hide...smell alone would be near overwhelming to those who do not live in close proximity to it and get acclimated some to the stink.
Mice, filth from mice is a particular stench.
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post #13 of 16 Old 08-23-2017, 11:17 PM
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Your neighbor is very fortunate to have you, and so is that horse! Your neighbor may have bed bugs. They're becoming very bad across the entire country and they're almost impossible to get rid of. Hopefully it's just fleas or something like that.

I'm a nurse manager at a nursing home and used to work home health. We see people in your neighbor's situation rather frequently. Adult protective services often gets involved if they're living in squalor and it's affecting their health. It's so sad. Often their houses get condemned and they spend the rest of their lives in nursing homes, and sometimes they don't have anybody to make sure their animals are OK.

I'd be very careful not to accidentally bring any little critters home with you if you're taking care of anything inside her house while she's gone.

Bless you for what you're doing.
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post #14 of 16 Old 08-23-2017, 11:53 PM
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You're really brave for taking action. :)

Okay, when I first read the post, I was in big shock. As someone who cleans out my horse's stall daily, if she isn't out in the pasture, and picks up her manure as soon as it's dropped in her stalls at shows, this is insane. Years without cleaning a stall? I couldn't bear to see that.
First question: Anybody else at the barn who is aware of the situation and would be willing to help out? Stablehand? Barn manager? Anybody who knows how to pick up a pitchfork and be safe around a horse qualifies as someone who can muck out this stall. But, if you said it is so deep that a machine must be used to remove the manure... Is there a tractor at the barn? You know, the ones with the large mechanical scoops? Use that! It's what my barn uses to transport the collective manure pile outside the barn. You can rent these kind of machines, too.
Second question: It truly isn't healthy for the horse. As many others have said, the smell of ammonia in their urine isn't good for anybody, let alone horses! I remember I had to clean up a whole aisle of stalls at a horse show and my nose was burning from the smell by the time I was done. That's why you should probably wear a mask if you're going to manually clean the stall. You can buy them from Home Depot. ANYWAY, the soft squishy and deep manure and urine mix isn't good for the hooves either, if its been standing in there for as long as it has been. Not to mention the flies... They can bite enough to open sores all over the skin.
Third question: Wear a mask (it can just be covering over your face and nose) to prevent the smell of ammonia getting to you and wear long sleeves/pants to protect from fly bites.
Fourth question: Yes, I would think so. This poses many health hazards to the animal and definitely shows that it is being strongly neglected. You can contact a humane society or veterinarian about this. Even the owner of the barn.
Fifth question: YES. If she is afraid of the bottle, there are roll-on sticks of fly prevention stuff that you can apply. Fly masks are a good idea, and you can even get fly boots and a sheet! If she has fly bites, apply SWAT. It heals the skin and protects against further flies aggravating the spot.
Good luck. :)
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post #15 of 16 Old 08-24-2017, 12:07 AM
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@equitatedaily - This isn't at a barn/facility, this is just at the neighbors property/house.
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post #16 of 16 Old 08-24-2017, 12:36 AM
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@equitatedaily - This isn't at a barn/facility, this is just at the neighbors property/house.
Oh, gotcha. Well this makes the situation 100 times harder to deal with!
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