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post #11 of 29 Old 12-25-2015, 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't do it for all the reasons stated.
What would your friend do if you weren't buying your place?
You could fib & tell her your husband said no.
Or let her bring them there on the condition that you will not be responsible for their care, she will have to be, every day until she can adopt them to someone else. Short term stay only & yes, get it in writing.
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post #12 of 29 Old 12-25-2015, 10:09 PM
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If money is a concern you could board them for her for money while she regimes them. 8 acres is way to much land for 8 minis. Most likely they will need a dry lot and fed less food. They don't eat a lot but dental, farrier and vet could get expensive.
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post #13 of 29 Old 12-25-2015, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KSgal View Post
A friend of ours has just gone through a divorce and is unable to keep her 8 mini horses and has come to us asking if we would like to adopt them.
This is a spectacular disaster in the making, for the reasons others have stated. Number one, your "friend" wants to have it both ways. She is not willing to part with her horses, and wants you to "adopt" them so they can still be her horses. You will do all the work and pay all the money and she will still be able to have her babies and tell you what to do. There is no exit strategy at all. If you decide to sell them, or give them away, or even make a non-approved decision in their care, your friendship will be over. Better it should end before you leap into this folly.

Number two, living on 8 acres has its own unexpected expenses, even without horses. For example, that land, left to itself, will degrade into a patch of noxious weeds that will embarrass you at best, or have the county dunning you for the cost of weed control at worst. Unless you rent it out as farmland you must keep it mowed, at least, which requires some significant machinery. What I'm saying is it would certainly be to your advantage to ease into the responsibilities of maintaining an estate before you take on the additional burden of livestock of any kind, let alone 8 mini horses.

And third, if you have any inclination toward horse ownership, please start with an open mind and a clean slate. The potential satisfaction of owning a pair of well trained 20 year-old quarter horse geldings, for example, might offer a suffering/reward ratio that would be far more faviorable to what 8 minis would provide.
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post #14 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 12:11 AM
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Adopt can also be a fancy term for buy. If she hauled them to auction she wouldn't get $50 each. Most people arrange for hay before hay growers start cutting. They like to know how many bales will sell. Not a good time of year to get hay unless it is plentiful in your area. There's another thing...have you checked into the price of hay? With hay losses due to either drought or flooding some is selling at 3 and 4 times the usual rate because of demand. I agree about not letting the minis step foot on your property. If the woman can't afford to feed them, she can't afford to board. A better plan for your daughter is to have her research sales, sale prices, feed costs, farrier, vet (shots) and when she's done this, if she, not you, but she still wants a horse/pony, then enjoy mother/daughter time by going shopping for one.

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post #15 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 12:33 AM
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Please don't do this to yourself. Everyone has made all of the good points. It's just going to end up screwing you in the end and no one else. Start with easy keepers if this is your first time. Not to mention, if you really want to keep this friend that is not the way to do it. Ive seen the closest friendships ruined by situations like this. If you do decide to take them. PUT EVERYTHING IN WRITING. Have a clause that states you have the right to sell them if need be. I hope it all works out for everyone involved.
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post #16 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 02:33 AM
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Nowhere in your original post did I get the impression that you always wanted or are ready to become a horse owner. Your friend is in an unfortunate situation but it is her problem. Kind of you to help her solve it but taking it on and having it become your problem is wrong. I also get the same feeling as some of the other posters that this woman is looking to hold on to them by having you do the work and take responsibility for them. I would even be reluctant to let them come on my property until she was able to find homes for them
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post #17 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 09:35 AM
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Sorry but your friend sounds like an animal hoarder and on top of it all, she allowed these poor creatures to be neglected and poorly fed-there is no excuse for this even going through a divorce.

You don't sound like you had any immediate plans to put horses on your property and when a person is un-educated about horses it's always a disaster for the poor animal when someone runs right out and gets one (let alone 8!!!). If you were an experienced horsewoman with a passion for them, it would be a different situation but even I wouldn't take on 8 of them!

Unfortunately minis are no longer worth very much money unless they are top end, high quality and I've seen a lot more genetic junk than I have the good ones. They don't eat as much as a normal size horse and in fact, they have a tendency to get overweight very easily but they still need the same care such as hoof trims every 6-8 weeks, vaccinations and constant, never-ending care. The temptation to compare them with having a dog is the biggest misconception with any inexperienced person.

Friend or no friend, I'd have to pass on this situation unless you really love spending time and money on horses.
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post #18 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Chasin Ponies View Post
Sorry but your friend sounds like an animal hoarder and on top of it all, she allowed these poor creatures to be neglected and poorly fed-there is no excuse for this even going through a divorce.
I am trying not to assume anything about your friend, but . . . . .Every animal of any kind requires a certain amount of individual attention. Now multiply that by eight! That requires a greater commitment than just having a couple of "pasture pets". Also, if she was breeding them (not practical unless they are top quality) and there is a stallion in the mix the number won't stay at eight for long.
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post #19 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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You guys have confirmed pretty much what I thought. I would not mind taking on two but really it would not the be fair to the animals since I really do not know how to care properly for them. I love having animals around but I would not want to risk their health because I let the ball drop on my end. I originally had thought about a few chickens and a large garden for my first year or two at the new home and had never even considered anything more. If I was confident in caring for a couple of mini horses it might be a neat experience but at this moment I think it would probably be more than I know how to handle.
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post #20 of 29 Old 12-26-2015, 12:06 PM
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Getting animals first and trying to learn how to take care of them later is just the wrong order. Cost is huge. You need to explore all costs before getting any kind of animal, horse, dog goat, etc. The only way to get accurate costs is to find out locally, everyone here is in a different part of the world.

You need to contact a vet for cost of farm call, worming, vaccinations, medications.
You need to contact a farrier for cost of hoof care and for how often trims are necessary.
You need to contact an equine dentist (could be the vet as well) for cost of dental care.
You need to contact a feed store for the cost of hay/feed.
You need to do research on how much (and what) to feed each animal according to size/needs and be prepared make adjustments if some animals run the others away from food.
You need to learn how to recognize common illnesses in horses like founder, colic, choking, etc. so you can call the vet.
You need to learn how to handle a horse, even a mini as far as haltering, tying and leading properly and avoiding yourself injury (they are small but still weigh a couple of hundred pounds at least).
You need to recognize and be able to correct horses' aggressive behavior toward yourself.

In a word, not a good idea, especially not for someone who didn't have the idea first of wanting equines. Even one is a big commitment.
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