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post #1 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 07:42 AM Thread Starter
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Problems bringing in

My names Phoebe. I recently bought a 2 year old shire gelding called Magnus. He's been brilliant, up until today. I tried to bring him in from the field, he threw his head in the air to stop me from putting his head collar on. Once out of the feild, he tried to trot away from me, bite me, kick me and rear up. It's really shaken me as he's absolutely huge and could quite easily flatten me.
I brought him in from his field at his previous home and he was as good as gold. I noticed that his old owner used a rope head collar, could he simply not like the normal head collar that I use on him?
He has hay on tap all day and has chaff, speadi-beat, garlic and vits&mins twice a day, could it be that I'm feeding him wrong?
I need help as I'm wary of him now.
Thank you !
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post #2 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 08:10 AM
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Is there someone who can help you in person?
2 years old is big in body, but still very young in mind.
Just like kids test boundries, horses test boundries.
He's being a brat, and if you are scared of him, he will get worse.
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post #3 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 08:12 AM
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I wish I could give you an instant fix to make him behave, but it sounds like you need someone there with you to help you.
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post #4 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 08:17 AM
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Welcome to the forum.

How long have you had him? There are a few things going on here, he is in a relatively new place, your new to him, and he is young.

If his previous owner used a rope halter then I would suggest you use a rope halter. It is not so much a matter of not liking the web halter, he does not respect it, a rope halter with knots applies pressure to points on their head and gives more control.

As for feeding him. Did you change his feed or keep him on the same diet his previous owner had him on? I don't see anything listed that would lead me to think it is his diet.

I think he is young horse with a lot of energy, in a new home trying out his new owner. I hope you have experience training young horses, though from your post it appears you do not. What he did is normal rude horse behavior, an experienced handler would understand that, and communicate to the horse that behavior is not acceptable.

Get a trainer or someone with experience with young horses to help you. Your right he could "flatten" you very easily, you need to learn how to handle him safely.
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post #5 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 09:15 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you everyone. I will try the rope halter and see if that makes a difference. I stood my ground with him this morning, it just shook me up as I wasn't expecting him to act like that.

I have many years experience with horses and breaking them in, this is however my first horse. I have a lot to learn still.

His feed is the same as before, I just wondered if I was missing something.

Thanks again!
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post #6 of 19 Old 01-19-2015, 09:20 AM
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He has decided he doesn't want to leave the field so tried his shenanigans out on you.



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post #7 of 19 Old 01-22-2015, 12:35 AM
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Hi & welcome Phoebe,

Nothing more to add from what others have said, except to emphasise getting the help of a good trainer... and to question your 'many years of breaking in' if you were baffled & shaken by this behaviour. 'Standing your ground' with a horse who rears, kicks & bites at you, regardless of his size, can be a very dangerous idea for someone who isn't sure of what they're doing.
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post #8 of 19 Old 01-22-2015, 01:49 PM
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Do you have a round pen you can work him in? He is giving you attitude and figuring out what he can get away with. Take him into a round pen and move him out. After he has moved a bit stop moving him out and invite him to come in. If he doesn't and walks around, move him out and speed him up. Repeat this until he comes to you. He will learn to respect you and come to you. He also learns that if he doesn't come to you then there is some work involved. You are establishing respect this way, and with a 2 year old and a big one at that, you need to establish respect.

I don't think the halter is causing the issue. He may be more responsive to the rope halter, but you can add a stud chain to your flat halter. You can run it through the rings around he nose and clip it back to itself. This way he knows its there but it's not cinching down on him which can freak out young horses and be too much.
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post #9 of 19 Old 01-22-2015, 02:01 PM
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I got a two year old who had been at trainers for the majority of his life. Now, in hindsight, all I can think is "Why did I do that?" Two and three year olds throw temper tantrums. It isn't fun, but they're just like children in that sense. It's just a matter of disciplining the temper tantrums out if them. They're scaty at first!!! But once you understand that you'll be set. I didn't do a lot with my two year old in the first year and a half. I didn't think I was quite ready and he wasn't showing much in the ground work area. So, I worked on that everyday when I did chores and have now started to ride daily for just a few minutes.
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post #10 of 19 Old 01-23-2015, 06:16 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you so much for your help!
Yesterday he rolled whilst I was bringing him in and then this morning he bit me a few times, Iv noticed it's in the same area everyday.
I tried taking him a different way and he was fine.
There isn't anything in particular in that area that is different to the rest of the walk. In fact, once he's had his tantrums, I almost have to drag him back to the stable or down to the feild.
I will try more in hand training with him and I will get him in the round pen.
Thank you
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