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post #31 of 118 Old 04-14-2016, 02:31 AM Thread Starter
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I hesitate to wade into this debate because I know I'll be crucified for it, but I don't think OP is wrong to be concerned or feel guilty about using horses (though perhaps it wasn't phrased in the best/most accurate way, as "pasture puff" is a common option for them besides labor/death). Yes, it's a different viewpoint from most of us, but at the heart of it, it shows concern for the proper treatment of the animal, which I for one appreciate.

I would also go so far as to say that our justifications for keeping horses are just, well, justifications. IMO, there are very few jobs that require the use of horses anymore. At the end of the day, they mostly exist for our entertainment, and it's not wrong to question the ethics behind that. (Look at what's happening with Sea World).

And on that note, I'm going to run and hide now.
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Thanks. What a relief! Someone understands me! I definitely have a lot to learn. The mere thought of it is overwhelming. Best wishes!
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post #32 of 118 Old 04-14-2016, 02:35 AM
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About the private parts, I don't agree with this but I know it is done. I know some people do it on show horses to make sure they don't put it out in the show ring. Not saying it is the right thing to do but I know it's not uncommon
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post #33 of 118 Old 04-14-2016, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks. I agree, but I just know it's going to cause a crap storm. I saw my friends 7-year-old daughter slap a horse in the face for no reason yesterday, and that is wrong on many levels.
What did you or your friend do about it?
Well...being that my 4-year-old was present and the girl's mother wasn't, I didn't do anything. Luckily, my child did not see it. Lord knows i'm always griping at my son to be kind to animals. I'd like to tell my friend, but I'm afraid it'd fall on deaf ears or cause a problem because I believe she hits the horses as well. I carry her daughter from school to the farm on mondays.
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post #34 of 118 Old 04-14-2016, 02:39 AM
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Thanks! I think so, too. I have not confronted her yet. I could be totally wrong in assuming a backlash will happen. Best wishes.
What backlash can she do that could hurt you? You leave, that's it.

The next time she acts too rough towards a horse you could simply say, " Why was that necessary?" Not in a snotty way but in such a way that you'd like an answer. If she gives you attitude or even an answer you don't like, that's your cue to leave, no explanation needed. If others hear so what? She chooses to hit horses in front of others, time for some payback.
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About the private parts, I don't agree with this but I know it is done. I know some people do it on show horses to make sure they don't put it out in the show ring. Not saying it is the right thing to do but I know it's not uncommon
Interesting. I'm trying to withhold opinion until I am more experienced. I'm not sure how to feel. That would be embarassing at a show for sure! Haha!
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Thanks! I think so, too. I have not confronted her yet. I could be totally wrong in assuming a backlash will happen. Best wishes.
What backlash can she do that could hurt you? You leave, that's it.

The next time she acts too rough towards a horse you could simply say, " Why was that necessary?" Not in a snotty way but in such a way that you'd like an answer. If she gives you attitude or even an answer you don't like, that's your cue to leave, no explanation needed. If others hear so what? She chooses to hit horses in front of others, time for some payback.
I have a feeling the response would be along the lines of what she's already said--that we should look at them like children and not allow them the upper hand. I get that, but it seems a bit severe. The horses weren't being aggressive or dangerous. I will definitely let you know what happens if I ask her!?
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Well...being that my 4-year-old was present and the girl's mother wasn't, I didn't do anything. Luckily, my child did not see it. Lord knows i'm always griping at my son to be kind to animals. I'd like to tell my friend, but I'm afraid it'd fall on deaf ears or cause a problem because I believe she hits the horses as well. I carry her daughter from school to the farm on mondays.
That's a tough situation, depending on how much you value that friendship. If you decide to ride elsewhere surely your friend will know why.

Your son will be a fine young man & your friend's daughter will be a mean girl.
If he does happen to see an incident that would be a good time for a talk, regardless of who is around.
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I have a feeling the response would be along the lines of what she's already said--that we should look at them like children and not allow them the upper hand. I get that, but it seems a bit severe. The horses weren't being aggressive or dangerous. I will definitely let you know what happens if I ask her!?
I hope she doesn't have kids.
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It's complicated. It's my husband's coworker's wife and daughter. She's already mean. Mama is too! The daughter said my back seat either smelled like a trash can or my son farted! Lol!! Then proceeded to scale a mountain of horse manure for fun. What logic. I just need to get out of there.
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I have a feeling the response would be along the lines of what she's already said--that we should look at them like children and not allow them the upper hand. I get that, but it seems a bit severe. The horses weren't being aggressive or dangerous. I will definitely let you know what happens if I ask her!?
I hope she doesn't have kids.
I know, right?! She does...7-year-old boy, 3-year-old girl.
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