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post #101 of 134 Old 12-09-2015, 07:45 AM
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Everybody has their ways, if you don't like someones ways then you move on. I'm glad that you found another trainer that seems more suitable for your daughter.

As far as techniques, It looks like everyone does things differently as well. Myself, I take the bridle off first, put the halter on, and then take the saddle off. Either way, if the horse is going to take off, it's going to leave with something. I'd rather it take off with the saddle than the bridle and step on the reins. I do know some people that will keep the rein over there head until the halter is on so the horse feels like it's still under control. As far as cinching I will always walk the horse a bit and adjust the cinch again. Matter of fact, when I'm done riding I'll loosen the cinch in the arena before we walk back. I guess I'd be getting yelled at too. lol
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post #102 of 134 Old 12-09-2015, 08:46 AM
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I found that I just do whatever first? I always have a halter with me when I take something off but I found my TB doesn't walk off if he still has anything on..
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post #103 of 134 Old 12-09-2015, 08:52 AM
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Myself, I take the bridle off first, put the halter on, and then take the saddle off. Either way, if the horse is going to take off, it's going to leave with something. I'd rather it take off with the saddle than the bridle and step on the reins. lol
Price of reins $50 - price of saddle $500+ - I'd rather a broken pair of reins , also if the horse runs off you have a better chance of regaining control if it is wearing a bridle

Not sure about the other habits of the trainer in question , but I have never removed the bridle before the saddle - and never will .

I don't know about the US but in the UK it is normal for the saddle to come off whilst you still have a bridle on the horse - headcoller goes on over the bridle and then with the horse then tied up the saddle then comes off, the headcoller is then placed around the horses neck whilst the bridle comes off and the headcollar then properly fitted - horse is never left with nothing around it's head whilst the saddle is still onboard
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I put my saddle on first but off last. Don't listen! And tell your coach about the petting scenario. I don't know but I don't think she sounds very qualified!

Oh one more thing, if your horse is in the stable hook an arm around one rein (over the head) and take the saddle off first in case he rolls and breaks the tree.
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Price of reins $50 - price of saddle $500+ - I'd rather a broken pair of reins , also if the horse runs off you have a better chance of regaining control if it is wearing a bridle

Not sure about the other habits of the trainer in question , but I have never removed the bridle before the saddle - and never will .

I don't know about the US but in the UK it is normal for the saddle to come off whilst you still have a bridle on the horse - headcoller goes on over the bridle and then with the horse then tied up the saddle then comes off, the headcoller is then placed around the horses neck whilst the bridle comes off and the headcollar then properly fitted - horse is never left with nothing around it's head whilst the saddle is still onboard
I see where you're coming from but I'd rather pay more money because my saddle is dead rather than put my horse down because their leg broke catching round the reins as they ran. Not meaning to be mean so please don't take the wrong way xx
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"Price of reins $50 - price of saddle $500+ - I'd rather a broken pair of reins , also if the horse runs off you have a better chance of regaining control if it is wearing a bridle" by Nutty Saddler

I'm thinking of the vet bill if a horse damages his mouth while going around loose with a bridle on.

I think a loose horse will damage a bridle a lot more than a saddle (unless he falls down).

I have another personal reason for saddling first. In the colder weather I like to put the saddle on and leave it on for a while to warm up before putting the bridle on and riding.
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post #107 of 134 Old 12-10-2015, 01:40 AM
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"Price of reins $50 - price of saddle $500+ - I'd rather a broken pair of reins , also if the horse runs off you have a better chance of regaining control if it is wearing a bridle" by Nutty Saddler

I'm thinking of the vet bill if a horse damages his mouth while going around loose with a bridle on.

I think a loose horse will damage a bridle a lot more than a saddle (unless he falls down).

I have another personal reason for saddling first. In the colder weather I like to put the saddle on and leave it on for a while to warm up before putting the bridle on and riding.
I don't suppose you have ever seen a horse running loose with nothing but a saddle , the stirrups flapping and banging on it's sides panicking it even more - I know that some will say that their horse doesn't panic , but that's not every ones horse . The way I tack up and un-tack there is zero chance of the horse getting loose at all

This is simply a difference in how we were taught - I don't think that this persons trainer should be 'sacked' for passing on what is not a wrong method for many
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Just done a quick check in my library

The Pony Club Manual of Horsemanship clearly outlines that after riding the saddle should come off first

As I said , I don't think that this trainer should be ' fired ' for using a method that is normal for many of us - and is even taught by institutions such as the BHS and Pony Club
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I don't suppose you have ever seen a horse running loose with nothing but a saddle , the stirrups flapping and banging on it's sides panicking it even more - I know that some will say that their horse doesn't panic , but that's not every ones horse . The way I tack up and un-tack there is zero chance of the horse getting loose at all

This is simply a difference in how we were taught - I don't think that this persons trainer should be 'sacked' for passing on what is not a wrong method for many
I'm not disagreeing with you Nutty Saddler. I wouldn't get rid of her as a coach if that were the only thing we disagreed on.

Also, just to be clear (not trying to be defensive, but for the sake of clarity and to show that we are actually mostly in agreement): a) the stirrups are always secured after riding and before leaving the arena so they shouldn't flap around. b) you mention a head collar. I don't even know what that is, exactly, but we don't use them here. We use cross-ties and for that, he has to have a halter on. Sure, we could put the halter on over his bridle, but we would have to take it off again to get the bridle off and that seems unnecessarily complicated to me. What I'm saying is that before you take the saddle off, you secure the horse. Some people don't because they have very reliable horses that won't move and they are comfortable with that because they are adults. I feel that a 10 year old child should start by securing the horse we've only had for two months using before walking away from his head to remove the saddle (as you point out, some say their horses don't panic, but ANY horse can panic and I'd rather not have it happen when my ten year old is standing on her tip-toes trying to pull saddle, girth and two saddle pads off him while he's not tied to anything). You use a head collar, we use cross ties. Same idea, just different tools!
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post #110 of 134 Old 12-10-2015, 08:25 AM
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Nutty Saddler I agree the instructor should not be dismissed for that one complaint.
I guess it is a personal preference for people as to whether to saddle or unsaddle first.
No offence to you intended over this matter.
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