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post #31 of 134 Old 12-01-2015, 04:41 PM Thread Starter
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A young girl showing the 4H taught way to un tack (English) this one has someone holding the reins for her so no need to tie the horse with a halter

Ultimately you do what works best for you and the horse in the situation you're in. You need to be sure the horse is always 'secure' in a safe way and you don't do anything to risk damaging your tack
Interesting. This works as long as you have someone to assist you. Someday, my daughter may ride on her own. I also sometimes go and ride on my own. No one is there to hold the horse so other means have to be used to ensure everyone's safety.
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Re. the un-tacking
I actually do remove the saddle first, it was something I was taught from the very start of my lifetime with horses
What a relief to read this! I was starting to think I was weird....

I was also taught as a kid to ALWAYS take off the saddle first. And for the exact same reasons your coach gave you Never thought about it much but it seemed good sense to me.

As Jaydee explained, in the UK typically one put the headcollar on over the bridle for untacking, or if the horse was reliable, put it on round the neck so you could remove the bridle too.

What I do now is what Rainaisabelle described: I loop the reins over my arm while I put the saddle in a safe place, then use the bridle to lead my horse into the dry lot. However, this is my place, not a busy barn where horses have to be put in cross ties. In fact I've never seen a cross tie in my life so I'm not very qualified to judge the sense in saddle before bridle or vice versa in your situation.

Whatever, the coach sounds odd. Kissing the horse's nose in the lesson is WAY off!
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It's not right that the horse is not focussed on your daughter but rather the instructor it can become a dangerous habit. My instructor actually has kissed my horse on the side of the head during a lesson but we were doing in hand work and she was showing me something so it was her own praise to him but when I'm working with him she takes a step back and just corrects and makes observations.
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What a relief to read this! I was starting to think I was weird....

I was also taught as a kid to ALWAYS take off the saddle first. And for the exact same reasons your coach gave you Never thought about it much but it seemed good sense to me.

As Jaydee explained, in the UK typically one put the headcollar on over the bridle for untacking, or if the horse was reliable, put it on round the neck so you could remove the bridle too.

What I do now is what Rainaisabelle described: I loop the reins over my arm while I put the saddle in a safe place, then use the bridle to lead my horse into the dry lot. However, this is my place, not a busy barn where horses have to be put in cross ties. In fact I've never seen a cross tie in my life so I'm not very qualified to judge the sense in saddle before bridle or vice versa in your situation.

Whatever, the coach sounds odd. Kissing the horse's nose in the lesson is WAY off!
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To me, at this point, it becomes a matter of preference, as long as the horse is under control throughout the process. I make sure my horse is tied before I remove the saddle and pad, and this way I can march directly to the tack room with the tack and never have to put the saddle anywhere else. But I suspect we've all been taught different versions based on tradition of our teachers, and so forth.

I have no problem with haltering over the bridle to remove a saddle first, but leaving a horse loose just seems to be asking for trouble as a *general* rule. You may know that your horse is rock solid, but I think it's good to remember that these are animals and they are not always predictable or all the same.
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I think this is a case of common sense and safety. I probably take Waaay too long to saddle and bridle. First I get out my tack and put it near where I will saddle (cross tie area). Then I bring my mare into the barn. Although the lead is attached to the halter, I generally don't cross tie, but I can. I have her stand. Then groom and then the saddle. Now comes the long part. My mare grows in size like a puffer fish when girthed. I have weak fingers and arms, not to mention being short and so not good leverage. So I walk my mare a bit in the riding area, stop and buckle. I do this for maybe 3 more notches. I still have her in halter and lead. When I am satisfied with the girth, I THEN take off the halter, buckling it around her neck for a handhold "in case" and bridle her (halter is left in the arena or near where I will dismount).

When I am done riding, I dismount, loosen the girth a notch and remove bridle, putting the halter back on. Then I cool out by walking, after which it's back to the barn for unsaddling and grooming. I really don't like to lead with the bridle, that is why I do all of this before bridling and after riding. So saddle first and then unsaddle last for me.

Yeah, I have plenty of time and it is my quirk. I count it as time with my horse.
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KNightrider, I don't get unsaddling in a pasture, and then lugging saddle back to the barn! I also quite often leave my horse tied up solid for awhile, before turning him/her back out, unless, of course, I am in hurry, going somewhere
Often I leave one horse tied while I ride another, do some house work (gasp! ) ect

I agree that there is no absolute, long as safe horse handling is used On trail rides, our horses have halters on under the bridle, so when we get back to the trailer, I take off the bridle and tie them up, leaving them =saddled for awhile
No, that is not because I put myself first, getting that beer or shot of rye on a cold day, as I do hang hay bags, but I have learned it helps prevent any saddle sores by letting the horse cool out gradually under that saddle, versus whipping it off and exposing that back to cold air
Again, same thing at a show, tying to my trailer to un saddle> I will remove bridle, put on halter and tie to trailer before un saddling. Same if I am un saddling in that show barn. I halter my horse, after removing bridle, then un saddle
At home I use ground tying quite a bit to groom and saddle or un saddle, thus remove saddle first. I then either lead horse back to pasture or corral, with that bridle, or I take bridle off, put halter on and tie horse up for awhile
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What a relief to read this! I was starting to think I was weird....

I was also taught as a kid to ALWAYS take off the saddle first. And for the exact same reasons your coach gave you Never thought about it much but it seemed good sense to me.

As Jaydee explained, in the UK typically one put the headcollar on over the bridle for untacking, or if the horse was reliable, put it on round the neck so you could remove the bridle too.

What I do now is what Rainaisabelle described: I loop the reins over my arm while I put the saddle in a safe place, then use the bridle to lead my horse into the dry lot. However, this is my place, not a busy barn where horses have to be put in cross ties. In fact I've never seen a cross tie in my life so I'm not very qualified to judge the sense in saddle before bridle or vice versa in your situation.

Whatever, the coach sounds odd. Kissing the horse's nose in the lesson is WAY off!
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I think if you work with or just ride (fox) hunters or jumping horses a lot you're more used to having a martingale or breastplate so its easier to remove the saddle first.
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I think if you work with or just ride (fox) hunters or jumping horses a lot you're more used to having a martingale or breastplate so its easier to remove the saddle first.
Very good point, so long since I have used either I had forgotten that part...

I always swap bridle for halter these days, tie horse up, then remove saddle...so either works, have done it both according to tack, circumstance, location etc.

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I think if you work with or just ride (fox) hunters or jumping horses a lot you're more used to having a martingale or breastplate so its easier to remove the saddle first.
I ride with a breastcollar every ride.. and would actually see that as an argument towards securing the horse first, then removing the saddle, as it's a lot easier to remove a saddle with a breastcollar using both hands!

Fascinating to hear about how different people do it.
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it sounds like the instructor wants to ride Harley herself. she should NOT be applying a bunch of kisses and stuff on him. he's "working", so he does not need distraction. it's a bit like loving on a guide dog when he's working for his blind master.

I am not aware of any reason to require removal of the saddle prior to tying up , or cross tying, a horse. what could possibley be the logic there?
we always put the halter around the neck, take off the bridle, then put the halter where it should be. horse is tied, then we remove the saddle and voila!
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