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post #51 of 134 Old 12-02-2015, 02:18 AM
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but , WHAT is the reason to take saddle off before bridle? if you've gone to the trouble of putting the halter around the neck, why leave the bridle on while you dilly dally with the saddle? why not just take the bridle off, put the halter on fully, THEN take the saddle off? no one has explained the logic of this yet.
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I don't know, it's what I learnt to do as a youngster. Never questioned it. Never thought it was illogical. Probably because as Jaydee said, if you're using a martingale, it's not possible to take the bridle off without unbuckling the girth, so it makes sense to do the saddle first.
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post #53 of 134 Old 12-02-2015, 02:36 AM
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Now I know why I ride like this - which I'm sure would go over at a show like a turd in the judges' punchbowl:



Move the reins to the halter. Hold one end of what is now a lead line in my hand. Take off...hmmm...don't know. Bridle or saddle, depending on which I grab first. Check feet, rub back, take 'em home (the corral). Not sure if I have ever tied a horse up before untacking. Maybe I ought to try it someday. Seems like it would get in the way of my walking in front of the horse, though.
You can remove a rope halter without removing the bridle so if on one of your rides you came across a show you wanted to enter (as one often does ) you would look just fine.
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Another possible solution would be to talk the the trainer without your daughter hearing. Maybe something like: "I appreciate you teaching her about riding, which is why I'm paying you to do that but I'll take care of the tacking up & untacking. I'm not new to horses & I feel that the way I've taught her is the safest way so I don't want to change that."
If she questions you tell her you don't want a loose horse or your saddle dropped on the floor. If she gives you attitude, no big deal-slap her (KIDDING), tell her your word if final on that issue or you'll no longer be using her services. That is if you want to stick with her at all.
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I was taught, and have taught that you always put the bridle on first and then the saddle and when untacking saddle off first and then bridle.

The main reason for this is control. If the horse were to get away as you removed the bridle then you have no control over it and it is loose with the saddle on.

Horses that have a martingale need to have the bridle on first to get it attached to the girth.

What you do is put the halter on, remove the saddle and put it on the floor in a safe place and then remove the bridle.

Admittedly in the UK we tack up in the stable. If a horse is only tacked up in cross ties
What happens if there are six people all wanting to tack up at the same time? In a racing yard there might be twenty plus horses all being exercised at the same time!
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post #56 of 134 Old 12-02-2015, 06:47 AM Thread Starter
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You have to duck or get clotheslined.
I didn't even mention this, but the trainer also told my daughter to NEVER, NEVER walk around in FRONT of her horse when he is cross-tied, always around the back. Which I get - although I do walk around the front all the time. Just seems easier if I'm doing up and undoing the bridle.
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Another possible solution would be to talk the the trainer without your daughter hearing. Maybe something like: "I appreciate you teaching her about riding, which is why I'm paying you to do that but I'll take care of the tacking up & untacking. I'm not new to horses & I feel that the way I've taught her is the safest way so I don't want to change that."
If she questions you tell her you don't want a loose horse or your saddle dropped on the floor. If she gives you attitude, no big deal-slap her (KIDDING), tell her your word if final on that issue or you'll no longer be using her services. That is if you want to stick with her at all.
Yes, well my daughter actually really likes her for some strange reason. Or maybe the idea of the pretty dressage moves appeals to her. In any case, we will try out a different one and then make a decision. If we decide to continue with the dressage coach, I'll let her make my daughter take the saddle off first, but I WILL insist that the horse be secured before she does that. Either I will have to hold the horse or she will have to put the halter over his neck. I will NOT let her try to take the saddle off while somehow holding onto the bridled horse in the middle of an aisle. I will be firm on that.
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Oh, and we'll tack up well before she arrives to avoid that hassle. But honestly, I am pushing hard for the next coach. And if she doesn't work out, I have a third one I can try.

I may also have to ask her not to give Harley so much attention during the lesson. That one will be hard because she will feel I am questioning her judgment. She is a bit of a diva. Really keeping my fingers crossed my daughter will agree with me that it's best to move on.
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Oh, and we'll tack up well before she arrives to avoid that hassle. But honestly, I am pushing hard for the next coach. And if she doesn't work out, I have a third one I can try.

I may also have to ask her not to give Harley so much attention during the lesson. That one will be hard because she will feel I am questioning her judgment. She is a bit of a diva. Really keeping my fingers crossed my daughter will agree with me that it's best to move on.
You are questioning her judgement...as you should. You're not paying her to pet your horse during a lesson or to lead your daughter to believe that her horse loves the trainer so much that he'll be sad to go somewhere else or however little girls think.
Remember, you hired her, you are her boss.
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"The main reason for this is control. If the horse were to get away as you removed the bridle then you have no control over it and it is loose with the saddle on."

That is why folks will put the halter on around the neck prior to taking the bridle off. They still have something around the neck. With most horses, one still has reasonable control that way.

My horses have no pasture. I bring them food or they cannot eat. By long tradition, after a ride, they get some food - even if it is just a pound of hay pellets, they always get something once back in the corral. They all know the routine. Horses love routine, and knowing good things are about to happen next.

In the summer, riding when it is pushing 100 degrees, we'll take their halters off after untacking and leave them loose, so the horses can roll in our little arena before going back to their corral. If something scares them, they will just run to their corral and wait for someone to let them in. Of course, that would be pee-poor judgment if tried at a show, or at a "barn", a racecourse, 30 miles from home, etc.

Lots of ways of doing something since there are a lot of different ways of owning and keeping horses.

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