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post #71 of 134 Old 12-02-2015, 02:59 PM
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but , WHAT is the reason to take saddle off before bridle? if you've gone to the trouble of putting the halter around the neck, why leave the bridle on while you dilly dally with the saddle? why not just take the bridle off, put the halter on fully, THEN take the saddle off? no one has explained the logic of this yet.
It's not logical, but sometimes I will grab the saddle off if I've put the halter around the neck before removing the bridle. In my mind it's because I want the horse's sweat marks under the saddle to dry faster, and that extra minute of drying time somehow makes me think I'm giving more time to dry.

I've known people who don't want you to walk under the horse's neck, and they said it was because they'd seen horses pull back. Obviously you don't want to scare the horse when you're under there by rattling your helmet loudly. My horses can be spooky but they are used to people walking under their neck. I work on that right away when teaching a horse to tie.

Kids should be taught that if they walk around a horse's hind end it should always be either very close or very far away.
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You know what's funny until this thread I hadn't really thought about it.
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If i am at home i will often take the saddle off first but i will put my horses reins over the rail first but won't tie them, she just stands there and waits but I've had her for so long now and i know she won't go anywhere. However, when I'm at an event i always tie up properly using a halter before taking the saddle off. Your instructor clearly has different views and does sound like she may not be particularly well educated with instructing because you'd think she would no better not for her to praise the horse but for the rider...
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You know what's funny until this thread I hadn't really thought about it.
I know, right!!?? I had no idea there would be such debate on the sequence of tacking up and untacking.

I suppose I would think to error on the side of safety and treat every horse as if you have no idea how it will behave to avoid a problem, but when you know your own horse and circumstances, well that is where individual preference come in.
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post #75 of 134 Old 12-02-2015, 04:13 PM
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Mine would want to pull it off the door to play.
No, it wouldn't because you are putting the bridle on!

As for not going in front of the horse if it is tied is because if you duck under its head you might startle it causing it to pull back.

Going behind a horse you should have a hand on its quarters and keep close to the horse.

Cannot say that I don't go under ther heads though!what I would like to know is what horses are not groomed or tacked in their stables.
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No, it wouldn't because you are putting the bridle on!

As for not going in front of the horse if it is tied is because if you duck under its head you might startle it causing it to pull back.

Going behind a horse you should have a hand on its quarters and keep close to the horse.

Cannot say that I don't go under ther heads though!what I would like to know is what horses are not groomed or tacked in their stables.
I might wonder about this for a horse that I did not know. but, a well trained horse should not startle from that, or if they do, and they pull back, the come off the pressure correctly.
more of an issue of safety, in my mind, when ducking under the rope in front of the horse is the horse startling from something behind him, and lunging forward ontop of you.
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"what I would like to know is what horses are not groomed or tacked in their stables."

Ummm...horses without a stable?

"... if it is tied is because if you duck under its head you might startle it causing it to pull back."

Ok, it pulls back and...what? What is the negative outcome?

My horses get tacked up (and down) while I hold the lead rope in my hand. Or have one end stuck in my jeans pocket. Even Mia never startled when tacking/untacking. But we are in a quiet place without much to distract them - although that never stopped Mia from spooking on a trail.

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The negative outcome of a horse suddenly running back is that it might disappear into the wild blue yonder dragging whatever it was tied too behind it!!!
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I I'd say that I did go in front of my horse when it was tied. they were the reasons I thought might be why it says not to go in front of your horse.

I can understand about not tacking up in a stable if the horse doesn't have one, I am asking why all the 'thing' about cross ties.

I would collect my tack, take it to the horse's stable, saddle on the door, remove its rugs (blankets), flick it over with a brush, bridle then saddle. Unless it was a young horse I was just starting I never tied them.

When I returned I would untack, take the tack to the tack room, most of mine would roll when they got back, then on my return they were given a good groom, rugged up and left.

I rarely tied any of my horses, not even for clipping, as they would stand where they were told.

As I was always busy I did cut corners with many things like tying them up but I knew the horses well as they knew me and there was trust on both sides.
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The negative outcome of a horse suddenly running back is that it might disappear into the wild blue yonder dragging whatever it was tied too behind it!!!

that's why you don't tie it to things it can pull out of the ground. if the tie bar isn't that strong, tie it to a couple of loops of bailing twine attached to the tie bar. they will break, but only if the horse pulls back very hard, and usually a horse that has been taught to release to pressure, once they hit the end of the rope and feel the halter dig in at the poll, they give.
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