Rolling while riding - The Horse Forum
 21Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 17 Old 07-29-2020, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 6
• Horses: 0
Rolling while riding

Hi guys!
Not sure if this is the right spot to post....

Just wondering about horses rolling while riding.. I was riding my 7/8yr old OTTB yesterday in a sand arena. He is pretty lazy-ish, not that much education, unbalanced typical ottb and while doing a couple laps around the arena he stretched down a couple times and arched his back like the feeling of like his going to buck, but didnt. I figured he was just stretching.
Next minute without warning he flops down to roll! I jumped off and wasnt hurt.

Now im sitting at work, overthinking... Does this sound like anything to anyone, please?

Picture is him just before my ride.. Looking quite happy with himself ( he was so muddy arghh )
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Pauly.jpg (22.7 KB, 3 views)
Sharnee is offline  
post #2 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 09:07 AM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10,928
• Horses: 12
As with most things horse - it all depends. If he has done this in the past then it could have become a learned behavior to relieve himself of his rider. If it is a first then it could be itchiness, discomfort, muscle soreness or just balky and resistant trying something new to get out of work. Something that needs correction no matter the root cause. Figuring out the root cause though can also prevent future attempts.


"while doing a couple laps around the arena he stretched down a couple times and arched his back like the feeling of like his going to buck, but didnt. I figured he was just stretching.
Next minute without warning he flops down to roll!"


That bolded was your warning.

Some horse people change their horse, they change their tack and discipline, they change their instructor; they never change themselves.
QtrBel is offline  
post #3 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 11:11 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 523
• Horses: 0
You do not want this to become a habit. One of my horses figured out she could dislodge a rider that way. The first time, it was when my son (age 8) was riding. He hopped off, no one was hurt. I thought it was a fluke thing. Next time, my daughter's friend (age 12) was riding, and the horse laid down (she didn't roll this time). The girl hopped off and I decided to fix the problem. I got on and rode like a sack of potatoes. I didn't steer, I wasn't balanced, and I let the horse wander around. She found a nice sandy spot and started sniffing. I took my feet out of the stirrups and waited. Sure enough, down she went. I instantly leapt onto her neck and tried to pin her down. She managed to get back up with me on her neck, and I wiggled back into the saddle (fyi, climbing over the horn was interesting). I continued riding, and she never tried that trick again. This strategy is very effective at breaking that habit, but I would only recommend an experienced rider try it.
Foxhunter likes this.
mkmurphy81 is offline  
post #4 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 02:11 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 7,471
• Horses: 3
He warned you what he was about to do .... you just didn't recognize the signs! Now you know.


Was it hot out? Often times, in the heat, horses enjoy a good roll in the dirt or sand. This won't be the last time a horse tries this on you. But remember that "feeling" and then kick like he!! and yell at the horse, to keep them moving and not to lay down.



I would not worry about the behavior - horses just do it. But of course, do your best to NOT let them. You don't want to end up with a broken saddle because of it.
JCnGrace and Woodhaven like this.

∞*˚ Βгįťţαňγ ˚*∞
It is not enough to know how to ride; one must know how to fall.
beau159 is offline  
post #5 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 02:44 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,917
• Horses: 0
Summertime and a nice roll in lovely soft sand is a real drawing card for a horse.
If you can, try to bring the horse out into the sand before you get ready to ride and let him have a roll he will enjoy it and a nice grooming after then saddle up and ride.;
As others have said, now you know the signs that he might roll, be aware and the first indication get after him, legs on hard and yell if you have to to keep him on his feet, he has to learn this is a NO NO when under saddle with a rider.
No joke if you get a leg caught underneath him and it does happen, resulting in broken ankles or legs. I know a few people this has happened to.

If possible again, after riding let him loose for a nice roll in the sand, That's what I do if my horse wants to roll. It's okay as long as I permit it.

This desire to roll can also happen in soft snow or water crossings if you are not watchful.
secuono and JCnGrace like this.
Woodhaven is offline  
post #6 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 05:50 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Western Massachusetts
Posts: 6,571
• Horses: 3
I once knew a shetland pony who would do this to unwary riders. Including midway in a stream crossing. If that didn't work he had other tricks up his sleeve.
Foxhunter likes this.

Short horse lover
Avna is online now  
post #7 of 17 Old 07-30-2020, 06:06 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,647
• Horses: 0
If a horse I'm riding starts to act like they're about to roll, I get REALLY REALLY BIG about asking for forward at all costs, immediately, until they get that idea out of their heads. Bringing one rein back to turn them sharply and untrack their feet can also make them have to stop that before they start.

On the plus side, at least you know he's relaxed with you. :LOL:
JCnGrace, Woodhaven, Avna and 1 others like this.
SteadyOn is offline  
post #8 of 17 Old 08-03-2020, 12:47 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 6
• Horses: 0
Hey! Yeah i was thinking this too but his done this plenty of times, kinda just felt like he was doing a stretchy walk.. Never had him fully roll while riding - other times he has pawed, so i knew what he was thinking and i corrected him.. He has surprised rolled before but thats just when i've just been leading him on foot.
Sharnee is offline  
post #9 of 17 Old 08-03-2020, 12:49 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 6
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by QtrBel View Post
As with most things horse - it all depends. If he has done this in the past then it could have become a learned behavior to relieve himself of his rider. If it is a first then it could be itchiness, discomfort, muscle soreness or just balky and resistant trying something new to get out of work. Something that needs correction no matter the root cause. Figuring out the root cause though can also prevent future attempts.


"while doing a couple laps around the arena he stretched down a couple times and arched his back like the feeling of like his going to buck, but didnt. I figured he was just stretching.
Next minute without warning he flops down to roll!"


That bolded was your warning.
Hey! Yeah i was thinking this too but his done this plenty of times, kinda just felt like he was doing a stretchy walk.. Never had him fully roll while riding - other times he has pawed, so i knew what he was thinking and i corrected him.. He has surprised rolled before but thats just when i've just been leading him on foot.
Sharnee is offline  
post #10 of 17 Old 08-03-2020, 12:56 AM Thread Starter
Foal
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 6
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodhaven View Post
Summertime and a nice roll in lovely soft sand is a real drawing card for a horse.
If you can, try to bring the horse out into the sand before you get ready to ride and let him have a roll he will enjoy it and a nice grooming after then saddle up and ride.;
As others have said, now you know the signs that he might roll, be aware and the first indication get after him, legs on hard and yell if you have to to keep him on his feet, he has to learn this is a NO NO when under saddle with a rider.
No joke if you get a leg caught underneath him and it does happen, resulting in broken ankles or legs. I know a few people this has happened to.

If possible again, after riding let him loose for a nice roll in the sand, That's what I do if my horse wants to roll. It's okay as long as I permit it.

This desire to roll can also happen in soft snow or water crossings if you are not watchful.
Haha yeah, I'm actually in Australia, so its winter here at the moment also, no snow here haha (i wish!)
I had just given him a nice brush, beforehand! I think his just a turd, to be honest
Woodhaven likes this.
Sharnee is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome