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post #11 of 17 Old 12-01-2016, 12:34 PM
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I like rubber matts, but as mentioned, I have them laid over a layer of crushed gravel, and use shavings.
Also, I had hubby drill ventilation holes, in the bottom of my commercial stall fronts(into the wooden slats, at the bottom.
This is sorta what my stall fronts are like

Standard Box Stall Fronts | Hi-Hog

The stalls are also raised above the level of the barn isle
Never have a problem with urine smell or accumulation. When I clean the stalls, I use stall dry on any wet spots
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post #12 of 17 Old 12-02-2016, 09:04 PM
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I have rubber mats over concrete. I use pellet bedding, about 4-6" thick over that. It's very thick and cushy, but also, very absorbent. I remove manure and urine daily of course, and add a few fresh pellets, but I almost never strip the entire stall down. And yet, my barn smells of fresh cut wood. The stalls are very clean and everyone who comes to my barn remarks that it doesn't smell at all. Yet I've been in some barns that were just awful - I could barely stand to go in there and I don't mind horse smells.

Even if the BO disinfects the rubber mats in your daughter's horse's stall, it probably won't make any difference. The smell is likely in every stall. In my experience, it is related to poor ventilation and poor bedding practices. It's good that your BO is willing to make an effort, but it's unlikely he will completely change how he does things. Cleaning one stall won't help the rest of the barn. I'd look at alternate boarding arrangements.
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I have rubber mats over crushed granite. I bed with wood shavings which are far more absorbent than straw especially wheat or barley straw -- rice straw is finer and works better for bedding, but it probably isn't available there (California grows a lot of rice). The horses are free to go out except in big storms at night, but my mare likes to go in there and pee (she has a half acre to pee in but she likes the shavings). I clean all the wet shavings out and sprinkle PDZ liberally before replacing with clean shavings. It does not smell at all.

Mats don't absorb moisture, so they are probably not the fundamental issue. The issue is wet bedding and poor air flow. Somebody needs to use more bedding, clean it more often, and put down PDZ or some equivalent on the wet mats.

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This occurred with me too. I disinfect my stable at the start of every school holiday, so at Christmas, Easter and twice in Summer. I use a thick bedding of shavings (dust-free) with huge banks that I clean and re-build once a year. I make sure no urine is left in her stable and all her rugs and buckets in there are washed with water daily and scrubbed with soap weekly. Her rugs are washed at the end of winter and end of summer. Her hay nets are always kept clear and if they have been on the war they are hosed off, possibly with soap. Dusty's feet are picked every day (even when I can't groom) to make sure that it isn't her which is smelling (thrush smells similar) and the walls of hr stable are disinfected twice a year.
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post #15 of 17 Old 12-07-2016, 06:49 AM
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I can recommend a few things:

1. Manna Pro Sweet PDZ Horse Stall Refresher Granular. Be sure to get the granules of this and not the powder.

2. Bye Bye Odor Concentrate I prefer this one, but ...

Okay, so the Manno Pro granules are easier to apply. You'll have to order this giant 40lb bag and lug it to your barn. However, you then sprinkle it around the stall. (I use an old Chinese food, quart-size, plastic soup container as the sprinkling device.)

I prefer Bye Bye Odor. For this you put a few capfuls into a spray bottle and add water (there are instructions that tell you the amount). Then, you mist the stall (preferably on the rubber mats before adding the additional bedding. So in your case, you may have to push the bedding aside, mist, push the bedding back and do this around the entire stall). My hand gets exhausted with that much spraying. Therefore, I eventually invested in a larger-size pump sprayer.

Solo 418 One-Hand Pressure Sprayer, 1-Liter Using this you can mix up a larger volume. Then you pump to load and can spray by just opening the nozzle. This is all much easier (overall), but you'll have to do this every day (or as frequently as you possible can).

So I agree with other posters. Although it is awful that your daughter smells like urine, the worst part of this is that it is doing very serious harm to your horses lungs.

Because of all of this, I'm a big proponent of horses living outside. However, I totally understand that that is not always an option. (But if it is an option for you, find good field board (and it's cheaper!)). Also, I understand that it is very tricky dealing with boarding facilities. (And they do not have an easy job dealing with horse owners, so I encourage kindness and fairness on both sides.)

If you need to pull the mats to clean/spray/spread granules under them, then I recommend these: EZGrip Mat Mover

So the granules are easier (in general). But the bag is heavy, and they are expensive! The liquid works better (from my experience), but you have to spray very thoroughly and regularly.

You may want to get a bag of granules, pull the mats, and sprinkle granules underneath of them. Then, follow up as frequently as possible (daily if you can) with the spray using the pump sprayer.

I hope this helps. If you need any more info, please let me know.
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Smile None of the above!

None of the above is the source of the smell. Strong rubber smell comes from horses urine. Humans can have this also. Can be diabetes or bacteria or kidney function disorder. Google "urine smells like rubber" and read how this phenomenon affects humans too start. May give some clues on how to proceed.
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I trialled several different types of rubber mats for a big company. All stables with concrete floors which had good drainage.

Cannot say that I liked any of them in particular because I found that the horses were far dirtier on them than with a deep bed.

The solid rubber mats with the seams sealed, smelled the worse. Somehow the urine would soak through and they would begin to smell. Cleaning under them was very hard work as they are so heavy to move.

The crumb mats were softer and easier to move though being porous washing them out washed anything under them out. The only thing was that these seemed to rot out with wear and the acid of the urine.

Cow sheets, these were light plastic, easier to move as they were very light, wore well preferred over the rubber mats.

Finally cow mattressing. This was something totally different. Fine chopper rubber granules, laid 4" thick. (Lengths of 4x2 laid around the stable walls, then a close weave membrane laid over the top amd fixed with plastic strips to the wood surround. This was like a water bed! It didn't seem to move much under the membrane though I did have crumb mats at the doors under the membrane.
Once we got the membrane right this was far the easiest to keep clean.

We had several stables down to this amd then moved. I removed the membrane and bagged the rubber. The strange thing was that there was absolutely no urine small at all.

I would sprinkle lime over the bed once a week.
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