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post #41 of 47 Old 11-26-2015, 06:50 PM
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I can see that PayPal can help with the transaction when the horse has not changed hands, but so much more difficult when the horse arrives at its new home.

Fergie is supposed to be bombproof, but she has been challenging, without my trainers guidance and help I could of got into serious trouble with her, I had to learn to ride her properly. She has also taken a while to settle into her new home, the last couple of rides she was a lot quieter.

It so easily becomes he said/she said, horse buying is really buyer beware
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post #42 of 47 Old 11-26-2015, 08:03 PM
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I can see that PayPal can help with the transaction when the horse has not changed hands, but so much more difficult when the horse arrives at its new home.

Fergie is supposed to be bombproof, but she has been challenging, without my trainers guidance and help I could of got into serious trouble with her, I had to learn to ride her properly. She has also taken a while to settle into her new home, the last couple of rides she was a lot quieter.

It so easily becomes he said/she said, horse buying is really buyer beware
Yes, in a situation of temperament, it would be difficult to convey, but there is an option to dispute in cases where the "item is not as described". Meaning a horse is advertised as sound and healthy and shows up underweight and lame. Ad and actual pictures or video could be provided and then Paypal would allow time for the animal to be shipped back while holding the funds. Not as easy to do when you're several states away and buyer has to pay and arrange return shipping, but depending on the sale price, it could be worth it.

Again, I would never again purchase sight unseen unless I has someone knowledgeable close to me (like my trainer), who knew my level of skill and knew the horse and it's background.

The REAL red flag that popped up with me from this seller was when she told me not to let my trainer ride the horse, that I didn't need my trainer, and we could just learn together. Huh??? NEVER have I heard this kinda talk from a knowledgeable horse person.
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post #43 of 47 Old 11-27-2015, 10:34 AM
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The REAL red flag that popped up with me from this seller was when she told me not to let my trainer ride the horse, that I didn't need my trainer, and we could just learn together. Huh??? NEVER have I heard this kinda talk from a knowledgeable horse person.
That is a HUGE red flag indeed!
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post #44 of 47 Old 11-27-2015, 11:34 AM
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Here's an article that may help others ('tis the season for paypal scams...)

37 ways to mess up a PayPal scam | Safe and Savvy Blog by F-Secure
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post #45 of 47 Old 12-02-2015, 03:09 PM
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I don't really see anything wrong with paying by Paypal? It's basically a bank transfer.

There are different laws in different states. I know you said you aren't going to buy this horse, but it may have been weird legally for you if you'd bought in another state. You can find blank horse purchasing contracts online.

We had to return a horse once (a "beginner-safe bombproof" horse who was spooky, bucked, and kicked; even found out later that we were the third purchase to return him). The contract worked well for us, because we had everything spelled out, even who was responsible for transportation costs. The owner lived far away from us. My husband drove him all the way down there and she gave him an envelope with cash. He didn't count it but found out later she had shorted us.

We've gone through a lot looking for a horse and ended up at the same place you are (sticking with lessons). What I've learned, sometimes the hard way, is that there are a lot of people out there who will lie about the horse they are trying to sell. Our next purchase will involve many pre-purchase rides and a trial period in the new setting.
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post #46 of 47 Old 12-02-2015, 03:50 PM
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...but, since it is an Icelandic pony, they tend to be calm anyway...
Every horse is an individual and their temperament will vary, but "calm" isn't the term that comes in my mind when I am thinking about Icelandic horses...

We call them (roughly translated) "the TB of volcanic origin"
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Every horse is an individual and their temperament will vary, but "calm" isn't the term that comes in my mind when I am thinking about Icelandic horses...

We call them (roughly translated) "the TB of volcanic origin"

Haha, what do you think? Icelandics tend to be little cuddle buggy calm-kins XD Especially geldings. Though I must say my mom's Pinto Icelandic 14 hh Gelding is quite the little booger. haha
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