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post #1 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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So I'm THISCLOSE to purchasing my first horse...

And I know this is a *very* ambiguous question, but what is the price point most people use to purchase their first (or any) horse?

A little about her:

- 9 Years Old
- Registered Tennessee Walking Horse
- Extremely well trained, shown, trail broke, very sweet disposition, wonderful gait, trailers easily, stands for mount/dismount, doesn't spook easily-- took her out on the trails and she did fine leading, moving over obstacles, ponying with another horse
- She is a soft in the mouth, responds well to cues except when asking for a cantor, her previous trainer did not want to/teach her the cues to cantor. My trainer seems to think is not much of an issue and can be corrected with some training
- She let me saddle her, took the bit very easily, fed well ( what horse doesn't). We worked in the arena doing some simple barrels and poles-- to which she did beautifully, has a quick turning motion.

- I will be getting a PPE, right now she is with my trainers at their place and they are the ones who found her and immediately thought of me. She will be boarded with them, trained by them and it ultimately comes down to their expert opinion knowing how I ride and how she is.

So, the lady selling her is asking $3,500 for her. $500 of that goes to my trainers for additional training. I trust them 100% so that is money well spent IMO. $3,500 is a little steep, but not out of range for me. I was thinking 3k was the top of my limit, but after doing a little research online and on Craigslist, this seems to be about par with her level of experience.

I wish I had a picture of her, she is BLACK, almost blue black with black mane and tail, very kind eyes and right at 15 hh (I think), good weight on her.

****This is not a picture of her, but this horse is extremely similar in coloring and build*****




Any thoughts on the pricing and do you think this would be a good first horse? If I need to provide more information, just let me know!
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post #2 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 10:17 AM
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To be honest, she seems well worth the price IMO. If she passes the PPE without problems I think she's definitely a wonderful partner to have around. Maybe at 3,5k you aren't looking at a 'steal' buying wise, but she's not very overpriced either for what she seems to offer.
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post #3 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 10:26 AM
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Aren't TWH gaited horses? Is that what you wanted? A gaited horse? If so, you may want to look at some threads on here where people ask advice on how to train their gaited horses to canter.

Does your trainer have experience with gaited horses?
Is this horse known to your trainer?

For 3500, I'd expect a good W/T/C and I'd want to know WHY at 9 years old the owner didn't want her to canter (is she strong, does she buck, or because she gaits?).

And from your riding level, having read your posts, I would want to have something that has all three gaits under saddle or you will end up spending a LOT more than 500 on training...

Can you not find a horse that is more ready, and you can spend 500 on lessons to learn together, rather than being out of your league?
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post #4 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Aren't TWH gaited horses? Is that what you wanted? A gaited horse? If so, you may want to look at some threads on here where people ask advice on how to train their gaited horses to canter.

Does your trainer have experience with gaited horses?
Is this horse known to your trainer?

For 3500, I'd expect a good W/T/C and I'd want to know WHY at 9 years old the owner didn't want her to canter (is she strong, does she buck, or because she gaits?).

And from your riding level, having read your posts, I would want to have something that has all three gaits under saddle or you will end up spending a LOT more than 500 on training...

Can you not find a horse that is more ready, and you can spend 500 on lessons to learn together, rather than being out of your league?

Good call out, I re-posted over in the gaited section for some feedback from those folks. But yes, I definitely do want a gaited horse. My trainers have a lot of experience with gaited breeds, so I am very comfortable there.

As far as why her previous owner did not want her to cantor, that I don't know. I know she was with her only shortly-- as this lady is a little "flighty" and has a knack for purchasing then re-selling horses. ( supposedly she sold this horse because she was "whinnying too much"). So, not sure how much information she could have passed along.

Also, the $500 includes training for the horse and me, and of course my training will continue well beyond that haha. Sorry, I should have made that more clear in my OP. I got to lessons 1-2x a week and would continue to do so, just on my own horse vs my trainers TWH and Spotted Saddle Horse

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post #5 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 10:38 AM
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Awesome, in which case I don't see why not!

If she is with a trainer of yours, can you get a few more rides in before you PPE and purchase?

Fingers crossed for you!
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Awesome, in which case I don't see why not!

If she is with a trainer of yours, can you get a few more rides in before you PPE and purchase?

Fingers crossed for you!
Oh definitely. This is very much a "no pressure" purchase, they got her and called me pretty immediately after spending some time with her to tell me they thought we would be a great fit. I am hoping to start showing this Spring 2015, so I would content to either use a horse of theirs or purchase my own and continue to train on.
They want to work with her some more this week, especially at the cantor and then I can "test drive" a little more before doing a PPE and purchasing.

But, either way-- whether I decide to go with her or not, they have expressly told me it won't hurt their feelings or change our training and relationship. they want me to find the horse that is right for me.

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post #7 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 01:48 PM
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Sounds great, save for the cantering issue. I bought a horse that wasn't cantered and found out after why ... she bucked whenever asked! We worked through it with training, but it took some time and was a bit stressful.
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post #8 of 11 Old 11-10-2014, 02:04 PM Thread Starter
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Sounds great, save for the cantering issue. I bought a horse that wasn't cantered and found out after why ... she bucked whenever asked! We worked through it with training, but it took some time and was a bit stressful.
Oh my! Well, I really cannot speak from personal experience as I only rode her yesterday for a little while, but on a scale of 1-10 temperament wise, i would put her at a 2-3. Very, very easy going and gentle. Which is what I really wanted/want in a first horse. I love that people out there appreciate a really hot horse, but I am just not at that level and I know it!

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I am not a gaited horse expert, but for some reason I want to say that not all TWH naturally know how to canter. Could this maybe be it? That no one has taught her to canter rather than gait? That doesn't seem like too much of a red flag to me.

Of course the horse could also have a behavioral issue or a lameness, but I think you have that covered between a PPE and her being with a trainer.

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Many gaited people do not want a horse to canter so discourage the horse from doing it under saddle in the training. You can tell if she can canter by how she is out in the paddock.

She sounds wonderful and looks like a beauty (I realize the pic is not her) so I hope it works out for you!

PS your trainers also sound like good people!
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